Zach Wilson and "Rookie QB Containment" Thread!

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  1. Ralebird

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    Your turn.
     
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    Can't sleep, so I re-watched all the Wilson and Lawrence passing plays at 25% speed with my stopwatch. (I know, lame.) A couple of observations about those passing plays:

    Formation:
    Wilson: 3/9 under center; 6/9 shotgun
    Lawrence: 2/11 under center, 9/11 shotgun

    Time to Throw (measured by me):
    Wilson: 9/9 plays < 3 seconds; average = 2.46 seconds
    Lawrence: 8/9 plays < 3 seconds; average = 2.53 seconds. This does not take into account the two passing plays on which he got sacked because he held on longer (3.12 seconds and 5.12 seconds before the sack).

    Lawrence's average is skewed downward by two designed quick passes in the flat, which were 1.07 seconds and 1.30 seconds TT. (Wilson didn't have any of those.) Take out those, and his average goes up to 2.91 seconds for the other 7 passes. Not that the quick flats don't count, but the number sheds light on how long it takes him to throw when he's not throwing a designed quick flat.

    By comparison, Darnold's TT in 2020 was 2.85. Of the NFL top 40 passing leaders in 2020, only two had an average Time to Throw under 2.5 seconds. That's not apples to apples -- those QBs spent more time under center, throwing downfield, and playing against the 1s, all of which affects your ability to get the ball off quickly. ;) But the numbers are consistent with the general impression people have that Wilson was getting the ball off very quickly (even by NFL standards) and that while Lawrence did fine, he held it a bit longer (other than his two quick passes to the flat).

    Damn. Still not tired. :(
     
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    He looked fine and had a couple of nice throws and moved the chains on 3rd down. That one throw over the middle on 3rd down was an absolute missile. It looked easy for him which is a great sign. He left me wanting more and more that's for sure.. I was super bummed when they took him out :D
     
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    Watching the Jaguars offensive line makes me proud of the work JD did to protect his prize possession. It looks like Lawrence is going to have a looooooooong szn.
     
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    I thought he coaching staff did a great job showcasing Zach.

    If we had better tight end talent he would have looked even better.
     
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    Yeah, that's why I think - barring injury - Lawrence is going to do well in the long run. He handled pressure so much better than Darnold ever did. Yeah, I know, 1 PS game, but Darnold never looked like that.

    Still, I thought our guy looked better. Again, part of 1 PS game against the #2s. We'll see more revealed this week. I wonder if Zach will be extra jazzed to be on the same field with Rodgers?
     
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    Lay off the energy drinks...:)
     
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    Costello trying to string together a good couple of weeks, here's another good one from the Post.

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/15/one-zach-wilson-skill-has-phil-simms-impressed-with-jets-qb/

    I know some will eat up his glowing review of Wilson which is fine, but I'm really posting for the bolded which confirms the game-style simulation they are attempting for his early development.
     
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    I read that yesterday.

    Can't complain about how the coaches are tempering Wilson.

    If he bonks... it won't be because of shitty coaching.
     
  12. legler82

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    I’m not too concerned about comparing “my guy”. As @IIMeanDeanII expressed he looked liked he belonged as did all the other QBs. That’s all that matters. On to next week’s challenge.

    With regards to Zach, I look forward to seeing how he performs against 1s.
     
  13. legler82

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    Hard to get overly excited about this w/o knowing what other teams do by comparison. I do love the fact Saleh is not a 7on7 fan.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, I meant to include that sentiment earlier. For all we know, every team that drafted QB is doing the same in their camp.

    You know San Francisco is.
     
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    Fields said the game was slower because of the looks he’s been getting in practice from his defense so who knows. Seems to me it’s something every team should be doing. I guess it’s better to read that than the alternative.
     
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    Someone appears to have slightly turned the page...
     
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    And that was Darnold's strength too - although he's not nearly as good as Zach - so what did Bowles and Gase do (especially Gase)? Try to make him into a pocket passer, and shut down his ability to throw on the run! Genius!

    Gase being reduced to coaching HS football isn't nearly enough punishment for him. He should NEVER be allowed to coach, ever again, at any level.
     
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    mine was

    "The defense was really playing well. Every throw he made was into tight windows. I’m not going to say it was a very good, plus practice. It was a training camp practice that was really hard on the quarterback. He made some unbelievable throws that should have been caught. There was a lot of good and some bad"
     
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