Your Head Coach choices for 2025

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  1. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Ron Rivera is the modern day Norv Turner. A retread. He is an "old" 62. He is fully checked out and the game has passed him by. He's a standup guy by all accounts but the Jets need more than that. They need talent and that includes the coaches they select. Hard pass on him.

    Obviously Rex Ryan is in the same boat but even a harder pass on him. He is a complete talking head buffoon who I want no part of because he's nothing more than a media circus/jagov. Any coaching mojo he had is wayyy in the rear view mirror years ago.

    We all really need to wait until the last reg season game is played next week to see how things flush out. All I know is the Jets better move decisively and immediately after Sunday night. If nothing else, 33rd team should be telling them that. You have to act quick or you will miss out. They've had plenty of time to prep for this so I'm very curious to see what happens starting then.
     
  2. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Hard fucking pass on Rivera…no thank you…best we’d do is go from 4-13 to 8-9.

    Not really sold on Vrabel either honestly…may be the best of the former HC guys but he just doesn’t excite me…Borat makes good points about his choices for offensive coaches…they sucked and I would fully expect more of the same shit.

    Don’t understand any of the Anthony Lynn talk…what the fuck has he done?

    Brian Flores is interesting because I do perceive him as a no nonsense disciplinarian type and we need some of that for sure, but I just can’t get behind yet another defensive guy. I just can’t.

    I do not think someone like Ben Johnson would even consider this shit show…a first time HC like him will have much better options…shit…both Chicago and NO are better…they both have better ownership track records…I’m not sold on Caleb Williams but he’s a better option for a hot shot OC like Johnson than our options which are aging Rodgers or nothing else really with no great options in the draft…and NO with Carr is also a decent enough option for a guy like Johnson. So to me, he’s a pipe dream. If he’s smart he stays way the fuck away from Woody.

    I don’t honestly know how attractive our job is…I really do think we have enough talent to win on both sides of the ball with the understanding that we need a QB solution. But Woody is such an incompetent idiot that if I were a potential HC, I’d stay the fuck away. He’s proven over 20 years that he has not a single clue.
     
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  3. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    IMO - the Jets cannot judge or develop draft picks - the QB misses stand out the most but who have the Jets taken in the first two rounds that they have developed so that they seem more than they were expected to be at the time of drafting?

    They say it takes 2-3 years to be able to judge a draft class (though not sure that is still true) but if you look back over the last decade or so then all our first and second round picks have been either outright busts or at the very best have played at a level close to what you might expect given their draft position (even the best of them - Quinnen Williams - is he really any better than you'd expect a player to be who is drafted #3 overall? A player getting drafted in the top 5 (especially if not a QB) needs to be a perennial pro-bowler to justify that position).
     
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  4. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    This is funny. Maybe .08 of the available candidates would even want to come to this qb-less shit show. And everyone is being picky as hell. We’re gonna end up with who ever gases high school oc is , and like it.

    Garrett, reed want out. We owe acid boy a shit ton of money whether we cut him or keep him. Sounds like no one what’s to play with him next year.
    Our owner , and his son go into to locker room after games and talk shit? Yeah, you know what could be worse than this year? Next year .
     
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  5. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    IMO. At the interview table, any reputable HC that would make a positive impact to this team, would have three questions with answers that would be critical to his willingness to take the position.
    1- Who is the GM under consideration and what is the reporting structure
    2- What is the leadership position on AR moving forward
    3- How much authority and responsibility do I have to retool this roster in the off season

    I would venture to say depending on the response from Woody....many a good one might decline the offer. Some, might not even consider an interview.
     
  6. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    1. how much are you going to pay me
    2. double it
    3. double it again

    OK I'll do it.
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    What if the Eagles go 1-and-done in the playoffs, could Sirianni become available?

    it is a bit odd he hasn't signed an extension yet and there has been some obvious internal strife there.

    what a move that would be for our Jets to grab him
     
  8. GREG

    GREG Well-Known Member

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    He is good no doubt. But the Lions have elite level talent in every area on the offensive side of the ball.
     
  9. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    DIck did say on his podcast that Liam Coen is a dark horse in the race. Hoping he will win over Glenn. We need to focus on getting offense right and hopefully some time in near future developing a QB that is likely not going to be a top 2 draft pick. I understand after pussies coaches we just had in Saleh and Ulbrich (sorry, I mean player friendly) we want super hard nosed guys, known for toughness, like Vrabel and Glenn, but why can't we get a brilliant offensive coach who is not a pussy?

    Glenn in 4 years in Detroit had defenses ranked as follows in points/yards: 31/29, 28/32, 23/19, 9/22. I mean this is not some stellar record for defense. It's OK, especially this year in points (though not in yards), but they are winning because of offense, not defense. i.e. Ben Johnson, not Glenn. We need to find the next Sirriani, McVey, Shanahan, O'Connell, and just OK DC in Glenn is not it. Liam I would sign up for now. I do like Borgonzi as a GM though.
     
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  10. GREG

    GREG Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about Borgonzi but I could see Glenn as the HC. He has history here as he played for the Jets. With Woody who knows what the Jets will do.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm not sure I consider history with this team as an automatic positive. He was the guy that fell for the Fake Spike, and he seemed happy enough to leave in the expansion draft.
     
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  12. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    The thing is, Glenn's name is being brought up because Detroit is red hot for the past couple of years. But they are not red hot because of Glenn!!! Look at the actual record. Last two years they have high powered offenses, and just OK defense. Last year below average defense, and pretty bad defenses before that. This year about average defense. A coach to get from Detroit would be Ben Johnson. Yes Glenn has Jets ties, but a serious question, if we want to go with a DC, why not go with someone who has top defense? Why hire a DC, whose defense is just OK this year and was below average to terrible for last 3 years, and the team is succeeding mostly because of offense?

    That just does not make any sense to me, Yeah I get it Glenn is a tough SOB, and we have a soft coach, and he did play for the Jets before, but toughness and Jets ties should not be the only criteria for hiring. Look at the record. Glenn's one does not warrant serious HC consideration at this time.
     
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  13. GREG

    GREG Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on Ben Johnson. If the Jets wanted to go with defensive coach, then I would prefer Vikings DC Brian Flores.
     
  14. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    The thing is when I heard Glenn's name mentioned, I figured Detroit had a good defense as haven't really watched them play much. Otherwise why would he be a candidate? Then I watch a few games and D is just OK. I look at his record, and it is subpair overall. I mean the guy is a decent/OK DC. I don't really want any defensive guy as a coach for the reasons I stated before, but if you do get a defensive guy, he has to prove he can build great defense at the very least. Glenn hasn't.

    So, why is he even being mentioned? Is it because he is on a good team, hard nosed, and has Jets ties? To me, these are good auxiliary points, and he checks these boxes, but the main one for a DC is having top defense. And Glenn does not have that, and never did. He doesn't check the main box. With Glenn not only do we have to worry about offense, but also defense as well. Hard no for me.
     
  15. Justwinit

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    I would love to see what he can here with our talent!
     
  16. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    i think as the season wore on, that defense has been ravaged by injuries. But yeah as a whole he doesn’t do much for me. Although it’s possible if you bring him on, you can bring on Ben Johnson’s heir apparent for OC if he decides to leave, many people really like him as a hot shot OC next in line.
     

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