You know this is all going to happen again next year...

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I know you said you didn't need it. jsut wanted to point it out for others who read it to see the issue with wentz.

    and ok, you think simian is better. if zach gets hurt we shall see.
     
  2. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    Considering we are currently playing the EXACT same season as 2022 all over again, the OPs point has some merit.

    I’d like to think it won’t happen yet again, but 5 yrs into this FO, there’s doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of learning from mistakes (or maybe a refusal to own them).
     
  3. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    I am SO fucking over this stupid “well we can’t risk breaking his confidence” bullshit! Seriously!

    If his confidence is so shaky then FUCK him…he’ll NEVER be a leader if this is what we have to do…baby him! By god he’s a professional fucking athlete getting paid millions. If benching his ass at halftime when he’s put up a couple of field goals is going to shatter him beyond repaid, then good riddance.

    So no, I don’t think Simian is better per se…I can say that he’s for sure had better games in his career than Zach has had. But sometimes just making a QB change sparks something. Not always, and probably not for a long term benefit. In the end, Zach has better physical attributes than Simian does, no question. But if we get to halftime and we see the same shit we’ve seen for games now where we can’t put up TDs then I would try bringing him in as relief at the half. Doesn’t even mean Zach can’t start the next game.

    But we’ve seen what Zach can do…it’s not good enough
     
  4. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

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    I'm not even sure they think they're making mistakes. We know that the Jets aren't an organization that actually is about or in any way cares about winning. They're making money hand over fist, just like the rest of the teams in the league, so mission accomplished.
     
  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that’s basically where I’m at but apparently we have to pick a side and can’t have that opinion according to the boards lead narcissist lol.

    And actually I’ll rephrase. I would’ve started Semien against the Raiders. Softer landing spot than Buffalo.
     
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  6. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure that there's really anything left to say other than this. Sums up the whole situation perfectly.
     
  7. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    You can't just give up on a guy after 3 seasons as a starter. He's so close to putting it all together. Year 4 will be different. /s
     
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  8. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

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    If they just give him until 2040, he might figure it out enough to be a top 25 QB in the league.
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    2024 is gonna be awesome and different. Buy some PSLs and see.
     
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  10. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

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    Probably the same product on the field, but we'll probably have new uniforms, so it'll definitely be different.
     
  11. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    I would think that philosophy applies when you are on the bubble - the Jets are better than a bubble team on defense and have two potential superstars on offense. That's more than enough reason to try and win - ESPECIALLY when you had a similar opportunity last year and it didn't work out. How many years can you sacrifice for one guy while the rest of the team sits back and wastes their time?
     
  12. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

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    If, as an organization, they're not at all serious about winning, then what's one more year?

    This organization has shown no inclination towards trying to win anything. Zach Wilson continuing to be the QB and the continued undisciplined mess we see on the field game after game, year after year, among other things, proves this.
     
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  13. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    I really honestly feel like Douglas had the ship pointing in the right direction (for the most part - many disagree, I get it) until Wilson turned into a bust last year and Woody Johnson altered the course completely. No one will ever convince me that he didn't step in and force everything from the time they courted Aaron Rodgers on.

    If there's one guy that's been here the whole time who has shown that he doesn't care about winning like fans care about winning but only for what it does for him, it is Woody fucking Johnson.
     
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  14. jets_fan

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    I know that it's up for debate, but I've never gotten the feeling that Douglas and Saleh were all that opposed to bringing in Rodgers. I think they thought so highly of what they'd put on the field last year, that it was only a QB away from being a contender, that they went and got a guy that could put them over the top. They overlooked the fact that their O-line was, at its very best, mediocre, and that outside of Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson, there are no playmakers on that side of the ball, and now that their prized QB isn't out there anymore, we're once again seeing just how much of a joke this offense they've put together is.

    I think it's probably best for them that Rodgers tore his achilles, which is an injury that could be attributed to the turf just as much as to him being hit by the defender. Had it not happened and Rodgers continued on in that game, at some point this season, I think there's a very high likelihood that Douglas' brilliant O-line would have gotten Rodgers seriously hurt in some other way. The opening night line was bad and it's only gotten worse since then.
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Definitely new unis! We get the home jerseys from the Sack Exchange era! Maybe they can get Gastineau in the Hall next to sell more of those throwbacks.
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Eh the lines definitely been inconsistent but not horrible. It was good against the Pats, Broncos, Raiders and ok 3 quarters against the Chargers and Chiefs. It was god awful against the Bills, Giants, Eagles.

    I think a good QB can mask the line to an extent. Rodgers really hates getting hit though. And I’m sure we’re going to get eaten alive by the Bills, Dolphins and definitely the Browns.
     
  17. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    They may not have been opposed to it, but they almost certainly wouldn't have done it without Woody's insistence. So that makes them only partially complicit, and like a lot of us, they probably said what the fuck, let's go for it. I would much rather they had continues building and gone a different route than go all in for this year and next. At the end of next year, it is extremely likely that we will be back in a complete rebuild. Again.
     

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