In my opinion, the only real problems both teams have are age/health problems in the rotation. I don't know the Yankees farm system real well, but I know the Mets have 4 or 5 potentially good starters awaiting in the wings. Pedro, Glavine and Trachsel are all old, but still hanging in there. Same goes for Johnson, Mussina, and Pavano. If anyone of these teams or both of them make it to the playoffs, they are going to need help in the first 3 starters.
well,then you just need to Believes in yourself and your team! Just believes and it happen befour your eyes! Like real magic!"
If he tears up double A, I could see it happen especially if whoever we have tried at the 5th spot is failing miserably
Guys, guys, i will start a thread like this every year until i die. Im a new yorker and the fans always go at it..its nature. I know our division we have to face them every year that can be left unsaid. But the mets and yankees fans going at it is tradition. The yankees have a history of winning and the mets have a history of losing. Thats why this thread is here. The GYC thread ha talk to me when that thread produces good arguments and not posting GYC 2,000 times. Exit 117 you want a sig bet fine you got it. Look i say the mets suck because im a yankee fan they are a good team on paper but when your FO pulled of those trades for pitchers...ha man those guys dont know what the hell they are doing. Even metfans agree with this. Players dont really want to play for the mets they just want a check...now ask a player any player any level, who would they rather play for yankees or mets? Who do you think they will say? Carlos beltran the latest proof. Sure randy is old and so is pedro... But giving history of the 2 pitchers who would you think will make a comeback? Randy has done it b4. Glavine and mussina, this year is mussinas hoorah year where he actually gives it his all, glavine might do the same but i just dont feel it. Trachsel and pavano...who the hell said pavano is old? Hahaha trachsel will not shine at all this season and pavano has something to prove. With that said i think pavano will have the better year. Chien ming wang is a rookie that is shining right now like pettitte did back then...can the mets say that about anybody in their staff now? Minor leaguers dont count. Because they havent pitched in the majors yet wang has and done exceptional. Yankees rule. Mets drool. MWASNY.
I didn't have a problem with the Anna Benson and Jae Seo trades. If Sanchez pitches effectively to get to Wagner in the 9th, then he will carry more value than Seo would have carried as a 4th starter. I see nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest players would rather play for the Yankees than the Mets. I'm sure it is harder to play for the Yankees because there is even more media scrutiny. Players sign with both these teams for checks. Don't give me any of this Yankee pride bullshit. What, exactly, is Pedro Martinez coming back from? Did I miss something? Did he go 4-15 with a 6.43 ERA last year? Given history, Randy Johnson is more likely to spit the bit in '06 than Martinez for two reasons: age and he failed the Yankees in the postseason last year (he didn't handle New York well).
^Red sox let him go because they knew something about his arm... And now its been a couple of years, this is the year it shows. We all know pedro is frail. And you are right randy didnt handle the new york media situation, but you know as all yankee players coming from a diffrent team needs time to adjust, he has had the time and will be better.
Ask Tony Woamck... I think that's the latest case, the story came out today. Duuuuh! :lol: He "did it" it real well when it mattered last year. :rofl2: BTW Pedro is 8 years younger then RJ and 3 years younger then Moose. Duuuuuuh x2 Pavano is another guy that doesn't want to be a Yankee. He showed up to camp with a surpise back injury... AWESOME!
^not wanting to be a yankee and not handling the yankee uniform are 2 totally diffrent things. And most players can not handle the yankee uniform 1 is pavano the other is womack..holding him back yeah ok, the punk didnt do shit at all.
You know what i mean by frail... He pitched good last season to show up the sox... He did that, now his arm will show why they let him go.
He is such a masterful, crafty, all-time great of a pitcher, that he got the job done last year without heat. Plenty of HOF pitchers lost much off their fastball in the second half of their careers and were still highly effective.
His arm is what is in question here... The yankees didnt pick him up for a reason... The same reason why they let pettitte go they know something. You guys better hope he doesnt get hurt in the WBC.. Because then you guys are really going to suck...
He isn't going to play in the WBC and his arm hasn't been a question, and it has already shown that the Yanks made mistakes letting Pettitte and Lieber go, and instead going all in with a 43 year old ace with back problems.
Letting lieber go? He did good in the first half and tailed off in the second.. But i liked lieber. And andy in the following year wasnt playing because of injury that year and hasnt played a whole season yet.
