Boston had to win games 6 & 7 w/o beckett and why did they win? their offense got them out to a 4-0 lead in the1st(and 10-1 after 3) in Game 6 and 3-0 after 3 in Game 7. How would Becett have led us to a WS if we couldn't hit? You need pitching but Boston didn't win behind great pitching they won b/c they hit and we could have won if we hit better in the clutch the last few years. In '04 Games 4, 5 & 6 of the ALCS we gav up 4 runs in 9 innings, tht's good enough pitching to win. Our pitching hasn't ben great and we knew that going into postseason, our lineups were great but our bats didn't show up and that is why we have lost these last few years thanks in large part to your favorite player.
Which means their pitching, aside from Beckett was just fine, contrary to what you said earlier. "0s" are "0s".
Perry thinks as I do. Bring in Cabrerra to play first. 24 years old and a formidable lineup with Arod for the next 10 years. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7451092
They rode the momentum from their ace performance while having decent performances along with offense, through these few years the Yanks haven't had one starter that they could count on as their "ace" Wang has choked like a dog continuously Good pitching allows you to say in the game until your bats can string a few runs, but if your pitching stinks you will be buried before your offense can wake up
now junc thinks the formula to win world series is to score 5 or 8 runs in the firsst two innings to "take the pressure off the pitching" hahahah c'mon dude....youre reaching here a bit
A-Rod has been hitless in the last 3 years...:rofl: EXACTLY how good do you want your pitching to be? When a guy makes 25 million a year or more, he damn well better hit in the playoffs, the way I see it. What difference does it make whether the pitching gives up 1 run or 20, if your biggest bat can't even get on base, let alone drive in runs?
It kills me that people make excuses for him not hitting....the guy isn't feared. Especially in the postseason
He never got paid 25 million from the Yankees. With your analysis then Jeter and Giambi should both be hitting 65 HRs and 180 RBIs in the regular season and then carry the team by themselves in the postseason as they have been paid, on average 6-8 million dollars a year more then Arod has. And I want our "ace" not to have a 19.08 era in the post season, is that asking too much? Get serious. Oh, and he hit better then Jeter, Cabrerra, Posada, Matsui, Giambi and Abreu did this year in the post season. But why confuse your stupidity with facts.
IDK but I never saw teams pitch around him during the postseason or even during the regular season when he was hitting the snot out of the ball. Lets see this October.
There wasn't much reason to. There were either no one on base or they already had an 8 run lead. They just wanted outs. In the regular season he walked 95 times. The problem people have trying to avoid Arod is that you have Posada, Matsui or Giambi coming up behind him. You run the risk of giving up 1 run or more then 1 run.
:rofl: Why are you still using facts to argue with these people? It's all about ARod not coming through in the clutch. THAT'S why we haven't won the World Series. Boston winning has nothing to do with one of, if not the, best lineups in the sport consistently hitting top to bottom, nor does it have anything to do with brilliant pitching performances by their staff. It's all because David Ortiz hit in the postseason. Or maybe it was Manny? Or could it have been Lowell? Whatever, it's because one guy carried the team, and that one guy, whoever he was, wasn't getting paid more than anyone else, so obviously, the guy making more than everyone else should be able to do it too! Your argument is so flawed. You have to remember, Jeter is Jeter. He's done enough over his career to earn a pass. Giambi is a juicer, so we shouldn't count on him to get hits (never mind being a juicer didn't stop Bonds from putting it in the seats.) Why would you even mention Wang? ARod is the best player, possibly ever, so he should have been able to overcome a measly 20 run deficit himself. I mean, what is he getting all this money for? Come on Don. Unless you're willing to use your imagination to fabricate reasons why ARod should be able to win the World Series all by himself, just stop arguing. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. :rofl:
The Yankee lineup.. 1B - A Rod 2B - A Rod 3B - A Rod SS - A Rod LF - A Rod CF - A Rod RF - A Rod C - A Rod DH - A Rod Yep... it's all A Rod's fault P - A Rod
Yeah, it does get tiring and you're right, I should just give it up. I'm just glad he's on our team and not a Met or an Angel. Or even worse, a Dodger. And BTW, Hank Steinbrenner said he was convinced the Dodgers would have offered him much more then the Yankees ended up paying. What is really funny is that there is absoultely nothing in his complete 12 year body of work that they can point to except 47 out of 7000 at bats. So they harp on it ad nauseum and can't see how ridiculous it makes them look. Junc is the best at looking like an idiot and now uses Matsuzaka to compare him to.
If the Yankees don't win a world series with Rodriguez on the team, can we talking about the Curse of ARod?
That would be fair, I suppose. Assuming they still have a good team. One that should be capable of winning a WS. Until they get some pitching they don't have that team yet.
We weren't winning any for the three years before he got here either and we had a better team then too. So maybe it's time to look at the manager and not the players. We will find out this year.
Makes nice spin, but no one outside of this thread would take it seriously. Here's what we know: Scott Boras talked with every team with enough resources to pay close to the numbers Boras was seeking. We know that Theo and the Red Sox had four hours of meetings with Boras and the NEXT move by A-Rod was to reacquaint himself with the Yankees, and go on a brief "I Heart NY" tour. We therefor know that the Red Sox gave him a "thanks but no thanks," and immediately cut his market by one-quarter to one-third. We know that Frank McCourt went into unprecedented debt to buy the Dodgers, mortgaged his purchase with land on the Boston waterfront, and we know that real estate values all over the country, and particularly the Northeast corridor, have stagnated. In short, we know that Frank McCourt wouldn't be paying $300 million for ANY player without first running it through his bank, and we know that banks everywhere are playing cautious with money. In sum - in the real world of finance, there's only a slim (at best) shot that the Dodgers would be serious players in any A-Rod negotiation, because they would have to convince their lender that Boras was correct with his "iconic value" method of valuation; and, although I think he was more right than wrong, I don't think the investment banking community would be all that comfortable with that math. The Yankees won the bidding war, and for that they should be pleased. That lineup demands a run-producer in the middle (as does Boston's). But, there should be no mistake about it: Coming in a close second in this grand meat auction was. . . . . . . . . nobody.
