Would we want Matt Flynn for QB?

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  1. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    If you count a deep ball as any throw over 15yds then Sanchez actually threw an average number of deep balls during the season, the same (as a percentage of total throws made) as guys like Matt Ryan and Tony Romo - its just that practically none of them completed - since the Denver game Sanchez has completed a league worst 15% of his long passes.

    I have to hope that Sanchez can turn things around but my faith in him after the Miami game is next to nil - his decision making and interceptions were laughably bad - I mean 4th string rookie that suited up at the last minute bad.
     
  2. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    Matt Flynn is also likely to be one of the hottest if not the hottest free agents this off season and certainly the hottest QB prospect - unless we offer him a ton of money and most likely the starting slot I cannot see him even entertaining coming to the Jets
     
  3. jilozzo

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    is that true about the attempts?? 15 yds is not a good indicator. 20 yds should be a minimum.

    it is very apparent that the deeper attempts are just "show me" passes to keep the D honest so to say. they are low percentage plays at best.

    i would stay away from the 1 game wonder matt flynn. those spots usually do not work out and u just overpay. the jets have other holes to fill that are more urgent than the QB position.
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I can't remember the last time Sanchez threw a deep pass, I find it difficult to believe he's thrown as many as anyone this year. Maybe 15 yards is too short of a cutoff. I'm talking about down field passes - maybe 25+ yarders.
     
  5. Mason

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    If he can get 32 TDs and 3500 yards in this offense, then he'd at least be good for 40 TDs and 4300+ yards in Green Bay's offense. They have the best corps in the league.
     
  6. LogeSection2RowJ

    LogeSection2RowJ Well-Known Member

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    a 7th round pick back-up has a great game, and we have to have him. Incredible. Flynn is now a big upgrade over our 5th overall pick from three years ago?

    Let's just bring Brett Ratliff back while we're at it.
     
  7. PatsFanTX

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    The Packers offense requires the following from the QB:

    1) Pre-snap reads. Where are the safeties and LB's. What receiver is in a mismatch situation.

    2) Quickly go through progression reads to find the mismatch or open receiver.

    3) Delivery the ball accurately to maximize YAC.

    These are areas where Sanchez struggles big time. Why do you think Shotty runs the offense he does for Sanchez?

    He would not put up anywhere near the numbers you think he would in the Packers offense.
     
  8. Mason

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    What offense doesn't require that from a QB? Our offense requires that, it doesn't change the fact that he still netted 32 TDs and 3500 yards with considerably less talent at every single skill position on offense.

    Sanchez can do all of those things, I've seen him do it.

    Are you seriously suggesting that he wouldn't put up 8 more TDs and 1000 more yards playing with Finley, Driver, Nelson, Jones and Jennings? Do you realize what he's working with here? He'd be going from a below average corps to the best in the league. He'd have to be brain dead not to improve with Green Bay's corps.
     
  9. PatsFanTX

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    Not consistently.

    His 3rd pick on Sunday is a perfect example.

    Sanchez gets to the LOS looks where Greene is, takes a drop-back staring at Greene the entire way, and then delivers the football 2 feet behind him resulting in another INT.

    If he hits Greene in stride, it probably results in the Jets taking the lead in that game.
     
  10. Mason

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    Nice cherry picking.

    Sanchez is not above making mistakes, that is blatantly obvious...
     
  11. Jet in the UK

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    I just don't see anything else other than Sanchez starting in 2012. I don't think Shotty will be here in 2012 because he will choose to go elsewhere.

    Hopefully Sanchez improves under a new OC. In some ways this is less of a gamble than Flynn or even Peyton Manning with his injury.
     
  12. gizmo253

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    We will bring in Flynn for 1 game a year, and than go see him in Miami for the other game....Mark my words the Fins will overpay for Flynn.

    I think flynn has a chance to be good, but its highly more likely he will be a "kolb" type player. He has a similar body type, yet he lacks arm strength and he will be playing in a totally different system with less talent.(Cannot compare to Brady, whom always had the size and the metrics to be a nfl QB).

    Similar to Kolb moving from the eagles to the cardinals, Flynn will move from GB to Miami and have to force the ball to Brandon Marshall similar to Kolb forcing the ball to Fitzgerald.


    I could be wrong....but im probably not. So we can all bear this cold offseason due to the thought of our division rivals throwing tons of money at another shit player. :)
     
  13. JetsUK

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    the only stats I could remember seeing were these - http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?pos=QB

    If you click to sort by %deep throws (which they class as anything 15+ yds) then you will see Sanchez is around the middle of the pack in terms of the % of his throws that were longer throws.
     
  14. 1968jetsfan

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    We'd have to give nothing to the Packers...He's a free agent and He's not going to get a franchise tag.
     
  15. JetsNation

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    Maybe but honestly I want a QB I can put up with Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger and Brees

    Go get me Jay Cutler, I think we have what it takes to get him. Then trade Sanchez to Seattle(like I keep saying)
     
  16. 12 > 4

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    You people need to settle down. I'm a Packers fan, but the lusting over this guy has gone overboard.

    This is from another board I frequent. Some of it won't make sense to the discussion here, but I'm sure you can figure it out:

    "Yeah, except Hasselbeck led them to a winning record, and had a pretty good season considering their best receiver went down in week three, and Chris Johnson was TERRIBLE outside of four big games. On top of that, they spent the eighth overall pick in the 2011 draft on Jake Locker, and he was very impressive when he played. Not happening.

    For everybody shitting on Kolb, I don't think he's great by any means, but he had some highly productive starts his last two seasons in Philly, and a much larger sample size for teams to evaluate than they do with Flynn.

    Flynn has two impressive starts, that's it. Six touchdown passes is very impressive(and rare - 16 times since the merger), but you also have to look at the touchdowns. Grant's was a little screen pass that he got outside on and ran away from everybody. Nelson's first was as much the play call and Nelson himself as it was Flynn. Another one of Nelson's was a ball he went up and got that could just have easily been incomplete. Driver deserves a lot of credit on his touchdown reception as well. These touchdowns were not guys streaking down the field and being hit in stride. On top of all that, Detroit was in the bottom third of the league in both passing yardage and touchdowns allowed, and missing two starters in their defensive backfield. Anyone who thinks Flynn can go to a team like Washington and have the same type of success on a game to game basis throwing to guys like Jabar Gaffney and Santana Moss in a new system is sadly mistaken. This is the best situation for him. Obviously he's not gonna get the opportunity here, and I don't blame him for wanting a starting job somewhere else - that's the whole point right? But just as none of favre's backups ever reached his level of success, Rodgers' backup won't either. I just hope if somebody decides to wildly overpay for him based off of two strong performances(and I think someone will), Thompson is able to get some compensation out of it. I think the best bet is an assistant currently on the Packers coaching staff getting a coordinator or head coching job on a QB needy team and convincing his owner that Flynn is the real deal.

    The idea of trading Rodgers is, pardon my language, fucking ludicrous. He is far and away the best player in the NFL, he's young, and by all appearances still improving. Despite one huge game, Flynn isn't on his level."
     
  17. blackssmagic

    blackssmagic Well-Known Member

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    What round was Brady picked in again? rounds picked in means shit....
     
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    Love the idea of trading Holmes to the Raiders in a package for Campbell. We would get nothing else in return and probably have to eat half of Holme's cap hit but dumping him for a hit of $7-8mm/yr is a lot more palatable than $15mm which will never happen.
     
  20. Rawrk

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    jason campbell is a free agent.
     

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