Worried about Sanchez?

I agree with a couple of the people that said he still gets into the habit of staring down his hot read, but I'm really impressed with his ability to allow screens to develop, which he was terrible at in the first 2 seasons, and also his ability to hit the dump off at the right moment, which he struggled with a lot in previous years.

I wish we could see this Mark Sanchez with the O-line he had in the past 2 years, because it's hard to tell how he'd do with a little protection. Hunter has been getting abused, and playing an undrafted rookie at center has the makings of a disaster on the surface, no matter that Baxter did settle down at a point yesterday. He's next to Slauson, who is not exactly a seasoned veteran, and he got bull rushed more than once, although Sanchez was able to escape most times.

 

So is Buffalo.

 

I don't think you can really compare Sanchez, Freeman and Stafford. They're all being asked to do different things at this point.

All Freeman is being asked to do is to learn how to play QB in the NFL. There are few expectations attached to the team's performance and as long as Freeman is good and improves the team could go 8-8 and people would still see it as progress.

Stafford is carrying the hopes of an entire city on his shoulders as the Lions try to make the jump from also-ran to contender.

Sanchez has to win a Super Bowl in the next couple of years or he's a failure.

Josh Freeman has it easy compared to the other two.

 

Good point.

But, the pool of fans or football people who would take Sanchez over Freeman is pretty small....... I'd say 98% of the people who would take Sanchez over Freeman are Jet Fan Sunshiners....


I'd love to hear from a few NFL experts who would still take Sanchez just to talk me off the cliff.

 

in this league under these rules if you don't have an elite Qb and a efficient high powered offense you will never win a superbowl. If Mark doesn't become elite then he won't be winning any superbowls bottom line. It doesn't matter how good our defense is, a elite passing offense will always trump a good defense (under these rules). It bothers me that were wasting time still trying to figure out if he is the guy while other teams are getting guys who actually are the real deal.

We can't afford to waste any more time. The turnover in this league is too high. If mark doesn't become great very very fast then we need to move on. I'm sick of the bonehead picks and the staring down receivers. He should be light years ahead of where he is now. With his playoff experience and the great players we've had. Its incredibly frustrating

 

The Cowboys game, there were 2 or 3 called. Tomlinson had a 70+ yard gain on one of them. I can't remember if they called one yesterday, I'd have to take another look at the game.

 

I know they threw one to Greene in the second half. Sanchez did a good job of having it develop. I think it went for 8-10 yards.

 

As long as we are winning Sanchez is doing a good job

 

In a league where passing is by far the majority of most offenses, addressing the DB's as priority makes sense. More so in a system that places a lot of stress on the DB by forcing man coverage.

Even if we aquire a great pass rushing LBer, we are still going to be running Rex's defense which calls for a lot of blitzing and coverage disguises.

Your also not accounting for Rex placing prime importance upon getting Bart Scott his first year here. Since then we have added Cro and K-Dub to the DB's and some UDFA types to both the linebacking Core. This past offseason we added two big defensive linemen via the draft.

This defense is not going anywhere, its only getting younger and more in the imiage Rex wants it. We've added 4 starters in the last two years and several key rotational guys to the defense alone. Don't expect taht to change this comming offseason as well.

 

Ive made numerous posts about how I understand Rex builds this d from the back to front converse to popular opinion to combat the pass heavy league rules.

what im saying is Bart Scott wont be easily replaced and our LB'ers with the exception of Harris are pretty aged and one dimmensional.

we can have all the DB's we want but this defense constantly gets gashed by TE's in the middle and RB's in the flats for this very reason.

having a edge rusher, a legit one, would help this defense tenfold and allow Rex to use more zone blitz's the likes that got the best of Manning and Brady last year by showing typical rex DB blitz only to drop them into zone.

thus improving our blitz packages and options to disguise coverage.

 

Calvin Pace has certainly not looked aged and one-dimensional these first two games.

 

Freeman is a better QB than Sanchez. Could that change? Absolutely. But there's no legitimate argument that Sanchez has been better so far in their careers. Before you say AFC Championship game, Sanchez had a great OL first 2 years, great WRs last year, and a running game that was good enough where Mark was asked to do very little.

Freeman, on the other hand, if you looked at his supporting cast, the Jets were probably better at 9 of 10 positions, yet Freeman threw 25 TDs and 6 INTs and led what looked like a dreadful team to 10 wins. And he's a year younger.

I liked him before the draft enough to be okay with taking him with our 1st round pick. In hindsight, that might have been better, but considering what we gave up to move up in round 1, and considering the results of the last 2 years, you can't really complain.


As far as Sanchez is concerned, he's playing better this year. I keep hoping the light will just click on, but that hasn't happened yet. He's getting better in small increments. It's too early to tell for this season, especially when you look at the two secondaries he's played so far.

The next 5 games will show a lot on how far Sanchez has progressed. So far, there have been some positive signs: higher completion percentage, 4 TDs in 2 games, more yardage. But 4 turnovers in 2 games that were his fault is not good, especially against 2 mediocre at best defenses.

Like LJF said, it's too early to tell, since he's had no running game. But this is a big season for Mark. Keep making positive strides and keep winning ballgames.

 

They need to get younger on the outside. Pace and Thomas are doing very well right now, but I worry about them later in the year. Thomas, again, is playing great in a contract year. Let him fucking walk this time.

I'm convinced Mauga can step in when Scott retires/contract is up. The kid does nothing but look good in every snap he plays.

The outside backers need two things - a rookie who is the next big deal, and a veteran backup like Jason Taylor again who can come in and help when needed.

Westerman is always "almost there," but the Jets need someone who can close.

 

What eliete Edge rusher would you have had us got get in the past 3 years that was availble were we drafted. What Free agent would you have had us sign adn who would you have let go for them? Can you honestly say at this point you would rather not have Cro and Wislon who so far looks to be a very, very good nickle this season?

As PJ4Ever said, Pace has looked very good this season as well. he was slowed last year after coming back from a broken foot, but looks very good at the moment. josh Magua has looked good in spot duty as well for us inside. We are deep on Defense jsut about everywhere now. Yes we do get gashed in the middle at times, but your looking at replacing one of Harris or Scott to get better there. Bryan Thomas is a weaker link in the passing game as well, but he grades out as one of our Best against the run. Its a give and take all over like that.

..... and For a defense that is suspect against the middle, we did a fantastic job against the Pats last year in the playoffs and they have two of the best TE's in the game.

You Say Sanchez needs to take advantage of this defense we have now. I point out that we have been adding to the defense right along and that its not near a fall off, so you come back with the wyas in which our defense is weak? how exactly does that back up what your saying anyway?

 

He did have a very nice hit on Gabbert yesterday after cming clean on a stunt with the blitzing DB. I'm insterested to see if he contiues to make plays as the season progresses or if its Rex talking up another boarderline guy.

 

Borderline is a good word to describe him.

Hopefully with more snaps his confidence continues to grow, but this defense is missing what we've all said its been missing since Rex took the job.

The good news - next seasons draft list isn't extensive. OLB, S,WR, and OL.

 

Mauga looks good in Harris's place. There are not many people that can play a "Ted" effectively. It takes a killer mentality. Bart clearly has it, I do not think Mauga does.

Watching special teams Bellore is more apt to be a "Ted".