Having said that, I was all for drafting a QB in EVERY round last year. We could have had Teddy or Carr and Garappolo and AJ and Mett and Murray and Savage and Fales and Murray and Boyd. We just got Boyd _
Again, my beef isn't who they acquired in FA - it's their approach to the draft. They simply did not take a QB to take one, they stood pat and waited for the opportunity to arise IN THE DRAFT - that is why we are arguing about this right now. How many QBs have come in for visits for the Jets? Jets were interested in virtually every QB during free agency. You don't believe the Jets are being aggressive in regards to upgrading the position and providing competition? They are spending TONS of cash right now. Like I said, if the Seahawks weren't patient in the draft, Brandon Weeden would've been the QB of the Seahawks with their 16th pick.
The approach is aggressive we all know that and that was already established by me about 20 posts ago, this is again about the draft and picking QBs in multiple rounds. Seattle stayed pat and did not take a QB just to take 1 in the draft. That essentially is true 110%. It's PAINFULLY obvious the Seahawks knew something about Wilson the majority of the league did not know, otherwise a GM would not waste his time visiting 1 player 4 times during their senior season. You can assume this all you want and that's fine - it's funny you say this because I in actuality defended YOUR QB and said NOT to draft Hundley in the next round. Try harder please. Sad, you need to quote others to make yourself feel relevant =/
Aggressive in FA, patient in the draft - just as I explained it about 100x. If they were aggressive in that draft, more than likely don't you think Wilson goes a round earlier? Very risky, very calculated moves done by Seattle. No GM visits a player 4 times in 1 collegiate season and thinks, oh Wilson is just an afterthought - lol seriously?
Again no... patience was not a part of it at all. The fact that they drafted players they scouted? That's what everyone does. John Idzik didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground with scouting players but he drafted guys he looked at prior to the draft too. Was that very patient and calculated? not really- that's what people do. Seattle drafted Irvin because they thought he was the best player available, they drafted Wilson because they thought he was the best player available in round 3, etc. If they were patient, and calculated, they wouldn't have taken Wilson because they just invested a lot of time and resources into 2 guys they already had. They did the opposite- they worried so little about patience and calculation because some teams worry too much about it or think they can outsmart people (like our Jets usually do). Basically, they didn't reinvent the wheel like you are trying to suggest. They just acquired a shit load of wheels and it just so happened to come together nicely after they threw out a bunch of junk wheels
If you are aggressive prior to the draft (i.e., FA and/or trades) you can afford to be patient in the draft. That's the symbiotic relationship between the various channels available to acquire players, Idzik failed to understand. Last year for example, going into the draft we desperately needed CBs, a coverage FS and another WR to pair with Decker in no particular order. Since we hadn't aggressively addressed those needs up until that point, it would only make since that we would aggressively do so in the draft. Despite being in position and having the means to address any if not all of those needs, Idzik practiced your "patient" approach. I'll say it again "brilliant strategy"!?!? Now going into this upcoming while there are a handful of positions that could be improved, the the one GIGANTIC hole on the roster is at QB. Do you want to practice more patience?
I'm not sure how I feel about Carr. I see some good things, and some things that need to be improved. I'm not nearly as in love with Carr as some here. Bridgewater, I thought was going to be awesome. I was hoping Idzik would pick him, or at least traded up for him.
Conversely, we aggressively addressed the CB position so now we can practice "patience" in the draft with regards to that position.
How many GMs visit 1 player 4 times during a college season and not think they can bring something major to the table? You don't think there was a plan in place for Wilson? That they believed he had something extremely special? 4 times in 1 college season. Think about it. Again, this was calculated and I am pretty sure they knew something about Wilson that the majority of teams did not know. I already know Seattle drafted Bruce Irvin because he was the BPA even though Legler blindly disagreed with me saying this. Round 2 they got a pretty good linebacker. An aggressive draft, more than likely you go and take Wilson right there. If the Seahawks weren't patient, and didn't have a plan as you all have indicated - don't you think they would've traded up to avoid any issues? That is being aggressive. 4 times in 1 college season, it's painfully obvious they wanted the guy. However, they had a plan. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page...e-picked-russell-wilson-adam-schefter-10-spot I am not saying they reinvented the wheel or anything like that - that's just how they carried out their plan. They had several scenarios for several situations. I think the Seahawks wanted Wilson the moment the GM visited him, I do think Flynn was insurance in case they didn't acquire him. That's how you plan. That's how you avoid disasters. I don't think this is them throwing shit against the wall at all - this was planned from day 1. Them taking Wilson shows even more patience because they were willing to develop him and take him in the 3rd round. The aggressiveness was letting Wilson take the reigns the minute he walked into the building. Also fuck John Idzik. I have no idea what he was doing.
Wait, whut?!? They paid Matt Flynn $26 million with $10 million guaranteed as insurance in case they couldn't get Wilson? Then passed on him not once but twice? And didn't move up to get him in the third? Not sure if serious. They stepped in shit with Wilson, now you are giving Seattle WAY too much credit. _
I truly believe that is the case, a lot of money no doubt, but the Seahawks had A LOT of interest in Wilson prior to them even thinking about Flynn. That's what I believe. Huge Risk, but a huge reward in the end. The fact that they passed on him twice, shows even MORE patience in their plan - they were able to get a top 3 linebacker in Bobby Wagner in the mean-time (2nd round). Seattle won the SB because of their plan in that draft, you have to give them plenty of credit. To think, if they just let Lynch run that ball, they would've been 2 time SB champs. Seattle takes plenty of risks, but I don't see many risks when it comes to their draft picks.
I'm pretty sure it shows nothing of the sort, but whatever. Maybe Idzik was showing patience for Teddy and thought he'd get him in the third. _
So Teddy was in the same class in regards to being a pro prospect as Wilson? Is that what you are trying to tell me here? As much as everyone loves Teddy, Idzik did not show the same interest in Teddy compared to the Seattle GM and his interest in Wilson - I don't even think Idzik visited Teddy ONCE. I absolutely believe the Seahawks saw something in Wilson that other teams did not see, that allowed them to be PATIENT and wait on Wilson.
you are all over the place. two posts ago you mention how risky it was to draft Irvin when no one wanted him, praising them for being risky and calculated, now you don't see many risks it comes to their draft picks. and Flynn was somehow option B from the get go huh???? An incredibly expensive option B they acquired before option A? WTF? in what world do people make decisions like that? I really, really am all about that sick camaro but I'm going to spend my life savings on that plymouth horizon first, just in case they don't give me the camaro... oh.. and even if they are willing to give it to me, I'm going to wait and risk losing it while I pick up some groceries and new shoes first. it's like you tried to make a point that didn't work and instead of conceding you are digging a deeper hole
