Will D'Brickashaw Ferguson develop into a Good LT?

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What do you expect out of D'brick next season?

Poll closed Feb 29, 2008.
  1. Pro-bowl

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  2. Above Average-Good

    74 vote(s)
    69.8%
  3. Below average- Average

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    11.3%
  1. People just ddo not want to grasp certain things about Brick...

    1. The development of an offensive linemen typically takes 3 years. You need to look for small improvements w/ technique, maturity and overall performance. When you look at Brick's technique from year 1 to year 2....there is a WORLD of difference.He completely shut down Uyi, Jason taylor, Terell Suggs, Vanden Bosch, and has generally done well against the Patriots outside rush packages.Unfortunately people only notice the bad plays he makes. And it is true he needs to become more consistent. That comes in year 3 and He will be fine.

    2. Brick was drafted more as a potentially elite pass protector..not so much as an OT. I have stated over and over again..he will never,NEVER be more than an average run blocker. Lt's are paid the big bucks to protect the QB's blindside, not to anchor the running game. Still have a problem w/ the pick? Blame Tannenbaum and the general scouting community...not Brick.
     
  2. JCotchrocket

    JCotchrocket Active Member

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    John Madden, during the Colts-Saints season opener, said that despite how effective the Colts fast, skinny defense was, they'd wear down over the course of the season and be duds by the playoffs. He called that pretty well, and I feel like that same principle applies to D'Brick. Schooled Jason Taylor early in the season, schooled by Jason Taylor in the rematch. The thing is, when a 350 pound man is exhausted, he's still a 350 pound man. When a skinny guy is exhausted, he's a cardboard cut-out.
     
  3. JetsLookingforDWare

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    1. Taylor destroyed Clement and Clarke in the second meeting.

    2. When that 350 pound man has to be quick enough to stop elite speed rushers like Taylor, Freeney, and others he's nothing more than a big thing they can around on. D'Brick's problem is definitely keeping on weight, but age should make that a non-issue...as well as improved technique, better talent around him, and so on. He's paid to protect our QBs, and I don't think the 23 year old whose started the hardest and most valuable OL position from Day 1 has done a bad job.
     
  4. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    mark it down, he's a bust!!!
     
  5. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

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    How he does next season is gonna be affected greatly by the guy next to him. I hate it when people call him a bust. When he had kendall he was in his rookie season. He showed major flashes in his rookie season. This past year he had a revolving door for a LG next to him, so defenses would just continually attack that side. Brick had absolutely no help. and even with this lack of help, he showed major flashes of dominance. He shut down Osi who everyone raves about. He shut down Taylor, the defensive player of the year just a year earlier. His size may be an issue yes, but i'd much prefer a guy with some actual pass blocking skill as opposed to a sack of fat crap at LT. Size isn't everything. walter jones, a guy everyone considers a top tier tackle is only 8 pounds heavier than d'brick. Is that 8 pounds the difference between a bust and a top 5 tackle?
     
  6. FITM

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    I do blame Tannenbaum. He picks a junk 1st round pick in Ferguson. The QB in the 2nd round isn't that great. Completely wasted two 3rd round picks, reaching for guys that shouldn't even be in the NFL. The guy is scared to make a big move.
     
  7. MobiusOne28

    MobiusOne28 New Member

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    Kurt and DWare pretty much said all I was going to. The man's improving and that was with a turnstile to his right and a non-existent tackle opposite of him. Once his metabolism slows down and he can hold on the weight better, he will be elite. I have no doubt.

    Until then, as long as he keeps improving his footwork and conditioning, he still flashes the potential of an above average-to-great tackle at the most demanding position on the OL. Hopefully we'll see more consistency this year, especially with Callahan on his back.
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    D'Brick may or may not work out for the Jets. He was still the right pick at the time the FO made the move. I disagree with them on a lot of things that have happened since, however I fully support the choice they made on the 4 pick in the 2006 draft. Sometime high picks just don't work out.
     
  9. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Lucky D'Brick's working out then.
     
  10. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

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    drastic much? somebody seems to be jumping off the ship a little too quick.
    Who should the FO have drafted at #4 overall? Aj Hawk? A guy that doesn't fit the 3-4? Oh how about Vernon Davis? A guy that hasn't seen the field since...
    Oh I know! We should've gotten Haloti Ngata! If that had happened people would be crying about how we reached for a DT and would have thought he would be the next d-rob. And You're saying clemens isn't that great. And he started 10 games while being protected by what you call a junk first round pick in d-brick, a revolving door of a LG and a pile on of a RT. You're right, this management has done a terrible job, but nobody realized until after a bad year, following a shocking run to the playoffs.
     
  11. JetsLookingforDWare

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    He, like our coaching staff/front office, has had more than enough time to see whether they have elite potential.

    Two years, one playoff appearance, 14-18 record, zero Pro Bowls, zero All Pros...and most important...zero Super Bowl wins. Busts all around...
     
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  12. notjustQBs

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    This is not the record in a 4-12 year of a mediocre LT.

    You guys need to figure out what are the good offensive lines in play at this time. Once you agree on those, take a look at the individuals and how well they did game by game, like DWare does for us with DBrick. Our guy stacks up pretty well.

    The problem is the unit is a bunch of guys, it was NOT a unit, it was a sieve pure and simple. The QB has about 1.3 seconds to decide and fire. The RBs have a 5 second hole they have to hit and cut through. It didn't give the RBs and the QBs a fighting chance. Why do you think we were 4-12? You think we had too many drops? You think the WRs are too slow and not talented enough? You think we don't have enough high-priced FAs?

    No, none of that. We have a sieve for an offensive line. These guys didn't play together well very often, if at all. Until the OL learns to fully integrate into a synchronized unit, hard times prevail. Period.
     
  13. MobiusOne28

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    39 years and counting...all the fans' impatience should be attributed to this FO, it's all obviously their fault... :wink:
     
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    Yeah, and from what I see Tannenbaum and Mangini are doing something about it.
     
  15. JetsLookingforDWare

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    And them signing the David Barrett's and Justin McCatchlesses of the world only further proves our point here.
     
  16. MobiusOne28

    MobiusOne28 New Member

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    I agree, man. I'm behind this FO and their vision. Some people are just way too damn impatient.
     
  17. Yeah b/c a player who has started every single game of his career at the hardest position along the OL, including for a 10-6 playoff team is complete "Junk".

    Would you rather have Reggie Bush right now? How bout Matt leinart?
     
  18. GriffDog

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    He played awesome last year especially since he had no help at all next to him. I think he will have a great year next year and I can't wait to see who we put next to him.
     
  19. In Mangini We Trust

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    KurtTheJetsFan....you are an idiot...i believe Vanden Bosch had 3 sacks on him this year and Jason Taylor had 2 in the second meeting
     
  20. MobiusOne28

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    Hey, you're forgetting Kyle Brady, Curtis Conway, Anthony Becht, Roger Vick, and the countless others who have contributed to this FO's sucktitude.
     

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