Brick is NOT the right pick. We are weak on oline, but LT we have covered. Adrian Jones when he came out was supposed to be a 2nd rounder, and he fell to early 4th, due to inexperience at the pos. Considering the state of our team last year he played very well at LT, especially when he was supposed to play the year at RT. Speaking of RT....now THATS the hole. Here we need a road grader in the mold of a Marcus McNeill, Andrew Whitowrth, Ryan O'Callaghan, or Troy Reddick. But LT is fine
I agree fully with you, anyone that thinks a flashy player can do anything without a strong line in the NFL has not watched enough of tha game
Well they(whoever the hell started this topic and whoever agrees with him) will learn their lesson when a DE blows by the mighty Adrian Jones and swats at Cutler's arm while hes throwing and suffers a torn labrum...
What has Gallery done for the Raiders????? 2ND OVERALL PICK and the Raiders still won just 4 games. ONE offensive lineman will NOT give our QB an extra 3 or 4 seconds to throw the ball. Youre talking about putting a bandaid on an enormous wound. D'Brick would be a good pick at 15, NOT at 4.
exactly. and what happens if someone blows by Brick and hits the QB? it happens no matter what. some of you people act like taking Brick equates to no sacks on the blindside. we already have a starting LT who has tremendous upside. why upgrade that same position at #4? If you wanna trade down and take him, fine. But you don't spend the 4th overall pick on a position you already have a starter for; especially when there are so many other needs. Furthermore, this draft is very very deep at OL. If we don't take Brick 4th, we can still get starting lineman thereafter. cheers
This just proves that you don't know what you're talking about. The value of the tackle can be disputed but I highly doubt that there's one GM in the league that would say that a HB is more important then a LT. Just for reference, here's how Scott Pioli ranked the most important offensive positions in an interview: 1. QB 2. LT 3. WR 4. RT 5. HB You could make a somewhat decent arguement that you shouldn't spend the 4 pick on a tackle becaue the chance of a tackle being a bust is good based on the past few years but to say that a tackle isn't important enough to go 4 is a joke.
I can't understanding the thinking that a true franchise LT is NOT an impact player. Treating the OL like an afterthought is what got this team in the mess it's in now.
An LT protects the QBs blindside. He is the most important part of the O-Line. Pennington went down this year becasue Fabini is a bum. Jones is serviceable at best at LT and is better suited at the RT position. Franchise LTs are found in the Top 10 selection of the draft. You can't find these people in the mid-rounds nor in FA because teams won't let them go unless they suck. From what I hear anyway Abe could go to the Raiders for their first and we can have both Ferguson and Cutler. I'm shocked that the Texans aren't picking Ferguson. How stuipd can they be?
Let me just clear this up. I'm for picking brick at 4 and am really against picking a QB (especially if it's Young or Cutler). I was just saying that if he's going to make a case against picking a lineman, he could at least have made an acceptable one.
im curious about whether or not Jones is "servicable" or "good." does anyone know how to find statistics of Sacks Allowed by OL? i searched around but only found like the 3 games posted of that stat. cheers
i dont understand why people think that offensive lineman arent as big of impact players as running backs and quaterbacks. The games begin and end with the offensive line. If we were to draft cutler, he would be like archie manning was in new orleans, he woud be murdered with the O Line we have rite now. Which is exactly why DBrick is who we need to draft with number four....
All very true. The problem is there are people on this board that think that the Ol isnt getting addressed unless we take an OL in round 1. I dont know if it's the lack of exposure to the position, the amount of hype Ferguson is getting or a combo of the 2, but the amount of depth at the OT position in this draft is getting shunned. People are acting like Brick is the only OT worth taking in the entire class and unless we take him, our Ol is doomed for the foreseeable future. That is quite far from the case. Is Brick a great player? Absolutely. But that doesnt mean we shouldnt explore other options and look to fill other needs. There will be plenty of good linemen in rounds 2 and 3.
Randy Moss isnt a playmaker? Joey Porter isnt playmaker? "Playmakers" dont make a team successful, its the supporting cast that does. RB's, QB's, and WR's are only as good as their OL allow them to be. PERIOD!!!
You're TRYING to make a point and you're failing. With all the Raiders "playmakers", Gallery hasn't helped them one bit. We dont HAVE the receivers the Raiders do....so how is Brick going to help??????
YOU'RE failing. The Raiders have LaMont Jordan, Kerry Collins, Randy Moss, Joey Porter, and others at the "playmaking" positions. Meanwhile, they DON'T have one bit of an offensive line that includes Gallery PLAYING OUT OF POSITION at right tackle. Write all you want, but the offensive line allows the QB to throw, the running backs to run, and the wide receivers to catch the ball. The games are won in the trenches.
