As long time jets fans I guess we all should be used to this! Can't we just admit already this qb can't play the position. He may have a good arm and all the skills that are needed for the position but he doesn't have what's needed between his ears. Everyone makes the argument that Sanchez is the best option. But they are only comparing physical skill sets. Look at Brady, they called him slow, weak arm, clumsy. We all know how at worked out. I can't take watching this quarter back anymore. He never had it, he had a team behind him that took him as far as they would go. You need a solid qb it this level. Not a game manager. We spend a first round draft pick to be a game manager. Does anyone think that luck and rgIII were drafted to manage games? A first round pick to mange games. We must be the only team in the nfl that's spending first round picks to manage games.
We all knew he was going to be like this for this season... question is: will he get better or is he Ted Ginn part2 ?
He's a rookie WR who played in an option offense in college. It's going to take time. Still, his hands scare me. He will need to spend the entire offseason infront of a jugs machine.
You have to let him take that 5 to 7 step drop though. Many times we are rushing the step back or won't let him get there. On the long developing routes, we don't give him time to stand back there and chuck it. On the few times he gets time, he's too scared to throw into coverage for Hill (probably the whole lets force this QB into a game manager idea) and checks out of it. The few times he actually makes a good throw (lets say half the time) then there is a 50% chance Hill catches it. They are a fine tuned offense and this is what happens. So between the OL inconsistency, Sanchez's inconsistency, and Hill's inconsistency, it rarely happens He's a good pick for building for the future. We needed some young talent at WR somewhere. At least we acknowledged we screwed up past offseason by making this draft move, a year too late, but we acknowledged it.
coaching staff has no idea how to use him. With his speed it should be go deep and let's see if we can get one here. They needed to have Plax or Edwards on the roster to work with hill. Another tall/fast receiver to teach hill how to use his size and strength to his advantage. You hear everyone bashing Sanchez in the rezone, but last year the Jets were #1 in the red zone - - they had Plax and LT. Those two guys opened up the entire end zone for tight ends and slants.. had a full arsenal of options. Now they are the only team not to throw a corner route or a screen in the red zone. Every team has the in the playbook except the Jets. Makes them very predictable and easy to defend.
Ted Ginn was actually a star WR in college. What people still don't get is that Stephen Hill was not a star in college and will not be a star in the pros. The question is whether or not his hard work will turn him into an acceptable #2 or #3 type guy. There's no way this guy was worth spending a #2 pick on, let alone trading up to do that. He was a mid-rounds flyer who might work out or might not. Those guys are a dime-a-dozen. The only thing that made him stand out from all the other guys like him in college is that he's an inch taller and .1 faster. That still didn't make him great in college and the competition went WAY up when he came to the pros.
this thread is full of gorilla poop. 1) Hill is a rookie WR. a position that consistently takes 2-3 years to adapt to and come into your own. 2) He is adjusting to a pro offense for the first time 3) He is way ahead of the pace of demarriyus thomas who came from the same school/program. thomas barely even saw the field the first 8 games last season with just 5 catches in the first half as a rookie. Hill had that in week 1. 4) he has sanchez throwing to him.
Has there ever been a case where the entire coaching staff was fired for their inability to figure out how to use a backup QB???? This is getting really bizarre. Can't wait!
Why blame Hill when Sanchez couldn't get the ball to anyone yesterday? After week one I thought we had a real playmaker in Hill. I think the the combo of the coaching staff and his QB are burying him.
he has to develop continuity with sanchez, dont you guys know it takes 3 or 5 years of the same guys playing together before they even realize tehy are on the field together? i mean seriously these guys have only practiced together for 8 months, they have probably only ran 1000 or so routes. give em time, or we will need new people and it will take 3 or 5 years for them to get to know eachother too. in all seriousness though, the kid will develop once he gets a decent qb and a coordinator who has a bit of a clue whats going on i think he will be fine.
1. Sanchez can't get the ball out of his hands fast enough to get the ball to Hill. 2. Hill will not catch it anyway.
There's no problem with Hill @ the moment but there is a problem with the Jets Offense. When Hill was drafted we all knew that he was raw & wouldn't be much of a contributor in year one. Now the offense is drowning & we're getting frustrated @ how few people can step up & make a difference. However, Hill was never going to be much of a difference maker in his rookie season. Even if this Jets O was good we'd see games where Hill looks invisible. Pros are a lot faster/stronger & the season is much longer. Plus he's seeing a much higher level of competition right now. Wait at least one full season before passing judgement on this guy.
He gets a pass because he's a rookie and I figured that he'd go through growing pains. It's Tanny's fault for not adding a vet WR in the offseason so that Hill wouldn't be forced to play a role he's not ready for.
That's the problem. Jets need to NEVER EVER(!) DRAFT PROJECTS AGAIN! (Gholston, Ducasse, Hill etc etc. etc.)
Well when evaluating offensive talent the Jets GM and coach's make sure that the players they put around Sanchez have minimal talent or any talent at all. The Jets scout's look for players who will make it as hard as humanly possible for the offense to move the chains. They see a guy who caught 5 passes in college and can't catch a football and decided to draft him in the second round.What that's not how the Steeler's,Giants and Patriots do it?????
People are not getting the point. I'm not blaming Hill for anything. I'm simply blaming the CS for not involving Hill more often in the game plan. Just throw the ball to him, even if it's a quick One step drop n pass, a slant, a screen. Something to get him going. When u play with confidence, u play much better. Couple of easy completions to Hill early on can change his entire game. Then take couple of deep shots. See what he can do with his speed.
I am one of those that missed your point. Good thing you posted again to clarify. I'm in agreement with you that the coaching staff could do a better job of trying to get him involved. Slant or wide receiver screen or just throwing a long bomb once a game where he tries to run the length of the field. Honestly, with the way Sanchez/Tebow situation is totally mismanaged, I think a lot of people (including myself) have lowered the bar on what this coaching staff can pull off with a talented but raw rookie. At this stage, I'm not expecting any player to be properly utilized. So there's really no energy left to complain about Hill's development or lack of development.
