why is there so much talk of trading Wilk?

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    True but.. .Wilkerson aint no Revis in his prime. He aint no Riggins in his prime, or Hugh Douglas, or Keyshawn or Coles or Abraham in their primes.

    He's not even the best defensive lineman on his team let alone the division/conference/league.

    I'd like to see them keep him but I'm not stressing about it. And when you are coming off a 4-12 season with a truly disgusting offense there's an argument to be made for using your assets, especially at a position of abundance, to get better.

    I'm not saying trade the man but I also don't think it should be ruled out by any means if the offer is right. And since he's under contract already theres no rush right now either way to either sign or trade him.
     
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  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I wouldn't put Richard Todd on that list but I understand your point.
     
  3. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Plus there's always the franchise tag, if it comes to that. The Jets have options, no need to shut the door on those options right now.
     
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  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    and with a player like him who doesn't bring the same intensity every single play... perhaps making him play for a contract as long as you can is a savvy leadership decision.

    The way his contract is set up this year and next year (if franchised) is built-in motivation for him to play hard. Why screw that up and give him a contract too early?
     
  5. Big Blocker

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    Yes, I also disagree with Dierking's point. It's not an analogous situation to those he mentioned. Add in the distinct possibility he is asking for more than the Jets are willing to pay him, and it would be stupid to not consider trading him.

    The "position of abundance" argument is also highly relevant. We can talk all day about BPA as a drafting philosophy. But when it comes to managing the vets on your roster, you have to take into consideration whether a trade of a player you can more easily replace will help your team by addressing a gaping hole elsewhere in your starting roster.
     
  6. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    So, it's now conclusively established that I am right.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    I think its a mistake letting the market set Wilkerson's price. If they don't think he's worth the cash, trade while you can get something for him. If they think he's worth it, pay the man.
     
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    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    With that kind of thinking we would not have Nick Mangold or Sheldon Richardson.

    Gotta have faith in the front office to get value for those draft picks.
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    we could have had both AND had John Abraham and Darrelle Revis.

    each situation is different- Abe was always hurt, Revis was coming off major injury and wanted big $$$$.

    the draft is essential but too many fans treat it like it's the SB when many of the players drafted won't be around in a few years.
     
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    Oh? how is that?
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    b/c when someone disagrees w/ you it means they are right b/c you are always wrong. Glad I could help.
     
  12. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    There could be an angle on this that we're not aware of. But all things being equal if the Jets and Wilkerson could have agreed on a number by now, wouldn't they have done so?
     
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    Why not wait until after the draft. Isnt that when Macagagnan said they were going to lock up Wilkerson?
     
  14. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I agree to an extent. 1 draft pick can change the course of an entire franchise.

    Of course it's not the SB, but that's where the road begins. It's more important than you think. If the Jets were better at drafting maybe you would appreciate the draft a little more.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    we've been pretty good the last 20 years or so which is why we were one of better teams in AFC. it's still not more important than winning games in the fall.
     
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    Spot on. It's not the NFL, but college, but there was a great article in the local newspaper detailing how Duke just won their national championship. Duke HC Mike Krzyzewski began scouting point guard Tyus Jones his freshman year. He was best friends with Jalil Okafor and they wanted to play together in college. Then Justise Winslow committed to Duke because those two had. Finally Grayson Allen committed.

    IMO it shows that every move a franchise makes has a repercussion or consequence and can have a dramatic effect down the road, no matter how seemingly unimportant it may seem at the time.
     
  17. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    We haven't been able to sustain long term success in the last 20 years. Just streaks here and there. Drafting well will allow the Jets to have long term success.

    That's winning games in the fall AND the winter.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    we have been mostly successful, the down years have usually been due to QB injuries until recently.

    we just haven't gotten lucky enough to get a top QB, it's actually amazing the success we have had w/o a long term top QB.
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Still no long term success at the end of the day. We are on the brink for 2 or 3 seasons then everything goes to shit.

    Imagine if Tanny and Rex hit on draft picks in 2010. You know the draft with Kyle Wilson? One pick could have made a difference.

    Jets could have done better.
     
  20. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Also shows establishing a winning culture begins when you scout and acquire players. Well before kick off.

    BTW you brought up Mike Krzyzewski in a Junc filled topic lol this might not go well.
     

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