Exactly. You can easily name over 40-50 players over the past 3 seasons, all under the age of 25-26 in which Bowles has played.
Its those who cant see the reason why a Petty or Hackenberg didnt win starting spots. As if they should have, deserved to or even hinted at making a claim to the starting job. Because thats about as wrong as it gets. Then again when all you do is whine about everything without thinking youre bound to be wrong, a lot.
hard to say. nobody has really stood out. If i had to guess we only keep 7 and 1 is the returner which appears to be roberts so far. the other 6 are the obvious 4 (pryor, Q, robbie, kearse) and my best guesses after that are hanson and peake.
I think as long as the staff believes McBride can also do KR we will end up rostering 8 WR. I don't see them giving up on Stewart or Hansen so soon, and it seems like everyone is drinking the Peake kool-aid and saying he's a different guy this year who has rededicated himself. With Stewart's 2 game suspension they will have an opportunity to take a longer look at McBride and Peake to make their decision of if they want to carry 8 all year.
Bowles, a former safety, started two rookies at safety last season. Brandon shell got starts as a rookie, so did Williams and Lee. Jenkins, Mauldin, Donahue, and McGuire all got rotational time as rookies. People pass off that narrative because he has yet to go young at QB. Its really sad that they could not see it was Bowles holding back Petty or Hack, they were just so bad he had no reason to play them.
Out of all the things one could criticize Bowles for, not playing young players is far down the list.
I agree totally. People cant seem to differentiate between starting all these rookies along with UDFAs with not starting Petty or Hack because they didnt deserve to even sniff the field.
Do you really think anyone ( FO, Coaches, knowledgeable fans ) really give a fuck where a guy played his college ball? Stewart has been trash, Hansen dropped every ball thrown his way, and Peake can't get out of his wheelchair to get on the field. It's about what a player does here and now. This year, in camp. Not that he wore the jersey with your favorite color in college.
No it isn't dumb or wouldn't be dumb. Bates likes to use a lot of 2 TE sets, and he uses TEs a lot in his offense. With both Herndon and Leggett coming off injuries, it would be dumb not to keep at least 3 TEs, and they'd be better off keeping 4 imo. Tomlinson is a very good blocker and could also function at FB, and he's capable of making some catches. Both Sterling and Walford have had good camps and they could be productive as well. We can't keep 5, but we could possibly keep 4 and stash one on the PS, or keep 3 and stash one on the PS.
You do realize that we need to keep a PR don't you? Right now Roberts is the best PR we have. He's probably a lock, so you might as well start girding your loins for it.
No, you c'mon. Sadly, he's the best PR we have at the moment. There's no way the rookie (Cannon) is ready to return punts, and Whitehead isn't as good as Roberts. IMO the only way Roberts doesn't make the team is if he gets injured, or a better PR is cut. Sadly, the Jets had about 6-8 return men on the roster during the offseason, but cut them all ever before OTAs, which made zero sense to me.
Yes. They do. Power conferences and big name programs are heavily scouted. There's a reason why Khalil Mack is the only NFL player who's ever been drafted out of "Buffalo". College football teams and conferences with the most NFL Draft first-round picks (updated as of 2018). USC: 81 1st round picks. Ohio State: 79 1st round pick. Notre Dame: 68 1st round picks. Miami: 65 1st round picks. Alabama: 60 1st round picks. Florida: 52 1st round picks. Tennessee: 45 1st round picks. Michigan: 45 1st round picks. Texas: 44 1st round picks. Oklahoma: 44 1st round picks. Florida State: 44 1st round picks. You can keep going, and going, and going some more etc. As of right now, you stand corrected (unless you can prove otherwise lol). 1st Round Draft Picks: SEC (407). Big 10 (377). Pac-12 (295). ACC (243). Big 12 (172). Independent (80). MAC (76). American (41). MWC (40). C-USA (19). Only seven players were selected from non-Power 5 schools this year (2018). Under Maccagnan: 1st, 2nd & 3rd rounds. Sam Darnold: USC (1st). Jamal Adams: LSU (1st). Darron Lee: Ohio State (1st). Leonard Williams: USC (1st). Do you see the trend yet? Marcus Maye: Florida (2nd). Christian Hackenberg: PSU (2nd). Devin Smith: Ohio State (2nd). ArDarius Stewart: Alabama (3rd). Jordan Jenkins: Georgia (3rd). Lorenzo Mauldin: Louisville (3rd). With all due respect but if you were to ask either of Mike Maccagnan, Todd Bowles or our scouting department... the same question in which you just asked me? They'd either laugh at you or not take you seriously, at all. Only Nathan Shepherd has been drafted out of a small school throughout our 1st three rounds of drafting over the past 4 drafts (11 picks). So yes, you stand corrected; unless you can prove me otherwise (which I'm confident you can't). Even Joe Namath was drafted out of Alabama & the SEC and that was way back in the 1960's... It's nothing new TonyFtLaud. Can't believe that was even a question. All because I mentioned that I'm not a believer in a 7th round, no namer, out of William & Marry who's on his 3rd team in 4 years type of WR in McBride? Wow.
All of the power 5 conferences are heavily scouted. We're not talking draft, were talking current NFL players. Once a player is in the league, no one gives a fuck what school they went to. Do you honestly believe Mac, Bowles or any gm is looking at their roster and saying, this player has been terrible all camp, but he played in the SEC? Get off Google and back on your meds. You have been really going off the deep end recently.
You can just take a look at the current top 100 NFL players. Outside of Khalil Mack and a handful of others? 70%-90% come from either big football programs or powerhouse Conferences. Not sure what you're trying to "argue about". 7th rounders out of William & Marry do not make it in this league. Statistically speaking, they just don't. Just take a look at last year's All-Pro's (2017). QB: Tom Brady. Michigan. RB: Todd Gurley. Georgia. Flex: Le'Veon Bell. Michigan St. Flex: Alvin Kamara. Tennessee. TE: Rob Gronkowski. Arizona. WR: DeAndre Hopkins. Clemson. WR: Julio Jones. Alabama. LT: David Bakhtiari. Colorado. RT: Lane Johnson. Oklahoma. RT: Mitchell Schwartz. CAL. RT: Darryl Williams. Miami. C: Alex Mack. CAL. LG: Andrew Norwell. Ohio State. LG: Rodger Saffold. Indiana. RG: Zack Martin. Notre Dame. RG: David DeCastro. Stanford. Edge Rusher: Calais Campbell. The U. Edge Rusher: Cameron Jordan. CAL. Edge Rusher: Everson Griffen. USC. Lineman: Aaron Donald: Pittsburgh. Linenan: Cameron Heyward. Ohio St. Lineman: Fletcher Cox. Miss State. LB: Von Miller. Texas A&M. LB: C.J Mosley. Alabama. LB: Chandler Jones. Syracuse. LB: Luke Kuechly. Boston College. LB: Telvin Smith. FSU. CB: Jalen Ramsey. FSU. CB: Xavier Rhodes. FSU. S: Earl Thomas. Texas. S: Harrison Smith. Notre Dame. S: Micah Hyde. Iowa. DB: Darius Slay. Mississippi State. KR: Pharoh Cooper. South Carolina. KR: Tyler Lockett. Kansas State. FG K: Justin Tucker. Texas. Punter: Johnny Hekker. Oregon State. ST: Budda Baker. Washington. ST: Matthew Slater. UCLA. All 39 of these 2017 All-Pro's either played for a big time college football program or from out of an NCAA powerhouse Conference. Compared to... QB: Carson Wentz. North Dakota St. WR: Antonio Brown. Central Michigan WR: Adam Thielen. Minnesota State. TE: Travis Kelce. Cincinnati. LT: Andrew Whitworth. Monroe, LA. C: Jason Kelce. Cincinnati. Edge Rusher: D. Lawrence. Boise St. LB: Bobby Wagner. Utah State. CB: A. J. Bouye. UCF. S: Kevin Byard. Middle Tennessee. FG: Greg Zuerlein. Missouri Western. Punter: Brett Kern. Toledo. PR: Jamal Agnew. Sam Diego. 13 players from smaller schools/non powerhouse Conferences. .750% in favor of big football programs and/or powerhouse Conferences. Look. You had no need to jump down my throat all because I mentioned not being a believer in a former 7th round draft pick out of "William & Marry" who's been nothing more than a no name jag of a WR. When a GM & H.C evaluate their roster? And there are young players on the bubble? They take their entire body of work into account; including that of their college careers. There is no way that Maccagnan/Bowles will keep a 7th round jag in Tre McBride out of "William & Marry" over 2nd & 3rd rounders in ArDarius, Peake & Hansen out of Alabama, Clemson & CAL. You'll see. Just watch... And then you'll see just wrong you truly were.
