Might as well draft Wilson instead of trading and paying a 27 going on 28 year old WR with mental health issues.
I too am concerned about Ridley. The guy played like shit for a few games this year, then just left. Sure talent is there, but do we want to deal with this on a young team that's just building the identity. Maybe if we were already a good established team and needed an extra piece, he would be worth a shot, but at this time, I would pass.
Burks didn't face press coverage often in the videos I saw, but beat it every time when he did. He is strong, has excellent hand usage, is big and fast, I don't think he will have a problem getting off the LOS in the NFL. Burks needs to refine his route running a little, plus learn some additional routes, but I think he will get separation. He also uses his body well to screen the defender from the ball. Landon is another story. He's not nearly as stout or strong as Burks or as fast. In the videos I watched covering all three years of Burks at Arkansas, he made at least 5-6 catches with defenders draped all over him that should have also resulted in defensive pass interference, but it wasn't called. His focus was amazing in those situations. In the analysis video I watched with Matt Waldman and a guy who used to work for the Draft Network, they said that he was pretty adept at using his hands, arms and body at the last minute to get more separation. They said he was skilled at offensive pass interference and not getting called on it.
A big bodied WR whose got great hands, catches in traffic and can get separation. Doesn’t have to be a deep threat type guy. Moore And Berrios can down the field threat. Throw in an athletic TE who can block along with Carter from back field should give LeFleur a lot of options and mixing up.
No WR is worth a top 10 selection this year, there's not a prospect that is as special as Ceedee Lamb or Chase--but if I must pick it would be London. I think those of you who picked Wilson are going to be very disappointed--the system he plays in exacerbates his numbers....this was proven when the wideouts still balled out during their bowl game. He's not that big, not that athletic and not that fast. I think he's going to be a mid-tier WR at the next level at best. I think London will be a very solid WR. He's just too big, physical and tough not to be--I think his floor is Mike Williams of the Chargers and his ceiling is Mike Evans (although I think Evans is more athletic). Dotson is a great system fit for what we do, as is Shakir (look him up if you haven't)....they are in offenses that have them doing similar stuff that we do.
I suggest you watch a lot of video of Treylon Burks. I've watched a lot of video on him, and he is fast, big and tough. He breaks lots of tackles and gets lots of YAC. He has excellent hands. I haven't watched a lot of film on London yet, so my opinion may change of him, but imo London is slow, and even though he's a good route runner, I think he will rarely get separation in the NFL. With his height, that may be fine, but he isn't going to get much in the way of YAC.
I like London but I disagree on Wilson. Wilson isn't that big or fast but he's really good at WR specific skills like route running and catching the ball. He's also crazy acrobatic so I don't think it's accurate to call him not that athletic. He's also very quick despite not having great top end speed. The wideouts that balled out during Ohio State's bowl game are really good prospects in their own right. Smith-Njigba might be the first receiver drafted when he's eligible and the other guy is Marvin Harrison Jr.
Well what I like about Bell is his setup to get to his spot maybe the best in this class. What he lacks in top end speed, he makes up for it by his damn near elite (in this class) short to intermediate route running. He also may have one of the best hands in the class too. His speed to get deep isn’t there and if he does go deep, you’re more relying on him to use his hood ability to make contested catches, which he is pretty good at. He’s a pretty bad blocker though. He gives me Brandon Lloyd vibes honestly.
I can’t unsee a best case scenario of him being AJ Green-like. His body control and hands remind me so much of him. I also like that Bell played in a gritty conference in cold weather his entire career.
Good point, I went back and watched Green highlights, I definitely see what you mean. With a WR corps who had a ton of drops, grabbing a Bell certainly would help with that. I’m also reminded how much Dalton just said F it and threw up jump balls to Green…as much as I love Wilson’s talent, I’d also like to see him let his WR’s go get it down the field more but that takes trust and to have the guys to do it.
When I watch Bell play, I think of Hopkins. Not the fastest, doesn't always get a ton of separation, but runs many routes, and catches pretty much everything thrown his way.
I can get behind this 100%. Rounds 4 and 5 should be used to get a (backup) C, RB/FB, and RG (2nd rd if we don’t resign LDT)
I know this is fun topic for people but we aren't going WR at 10. Our defense was a travesty and JD will spend both firsts on defense. Expect an edge and a DB. With the only possible exception of taking Neil.
I couldn't possibly disagree more. Nothing is more important than developing Zach. A late round WR is not going to do anything to help Zach this year, and probably never. Davis didn't prove to be very reliable last year. Anything that they get from Mims at this point will be a surprise. They certainly can't count on him. Hopefully Moore can stay healthy this year. Crowder and Cole are probably gone. Berrios and Mims may be as well. We can't go in to 2022 with Moore, Davis and a bunch of stiffs. IMO that would be the dumbest possible thing that JD and Saleh could do. They need a WR who can come in and day one be a big part of the offense and contribute at a high level. You don't find those types late in the draft. As far as FA, who are these #1 WRs? They could sign Allen Robinson for one year, but I doubt he'd want to come here, and even if he did, he wasn't very healthy this past season. At his age, he may not be able to stay healthy any more. Mike Williams is not a #1 WR. Neither is JuJu Smith-Schuster. Chris Godwin is, but he tore his ACL, so he's out. There are some pretty good #3 and #4 WRs in FA. You really should do some research before just throwing out a generic statement like that. As far as needs, there is no bigger need than a #1 WR for Zach. Edge, RG and S aren't far behind, but a #1 WR is the top need. In addition, taking a WR early doesn't preclude JD's trading down. He could trade down from #4 garner an additional 2nd and 3rd round pick this year and take a WR at #10 or with our pick in the 2nd round, and still address other needs. Several needs quite possibly can be addressed in FA. There are safeties like Marcus Williams and Jessie Bates III who could be available. There could be TEs like Dalton Schultz, Njoku, Robert Tonyan, OJ Howard, Tyler Conklin and Donald Parham. At OG/C there are players like Connor Williams, James Daniels, Laken Tomlinson and others who could fill our RG need. There are good young OLBs available. There are a lot of ways that JD can handle the offseason and address needs. Nothing should be ignored and no position to which lip service is given. Like you want to do to the WR position.
It depends on what happens in free agency/trade. I think JD will try to get a really good receiver. Robison, even Amari Cooper could be options. If he does, I could see why he deprioritizes WR some, and even then it's such a key position, such expensive position, that it is a good idea to have a 1st round WR. Say, JD does not strike a WR in FA market. Maybe we just get Berrios and some sort of mid tier Cole replacement. Then WR is right there as a top priority. Now, you could say #10 is too rich. But Jeremiah has Burks listed as #8. Next one is London at 16. Then the rest of class - smaller guys. The more I watch Burks the more I like him. His speed is right there with all the smaller WRs, while this beast is 6-3 225. Athleticism is through the roof. Production is excellent with 40+% of all passing yards for his team. Didn't have Heisman candidate at QB either, though Jefferson is a solid QB. Excellent YAC numbers. People say high ceiling, but low floor, but I think even the floor here is pretty high. This is not Mims we are talking about. We get this dude - I think we have a #1 and #2 receivers locked in for good price for next 4-5 years with him and Moore.
Exacerbates his numbers? This was proven when the WR balled out In their bowl game.... Huh? Do you even pay attention to recruiting classes? Do you understand how the depth at the college level works? Especially for a school like Ohio State. This, Is a misunderstanding of how the college games work on your part, not proof of anything. At all. He's big enough. Very athletic and plenty fast... Alright.. I'm going to see my way out now.
