The quality of your throws and the strength of your arm don't change based on who the defender is. Simms has made good decisions and delivered the ball on target and with more zip than either of the two competing to be the starter. And he did it while running for his life behind the third string OL..
Simms looks like a leader when on the field, Smith and Sanchez have the look of defeat. I re-watched the game an the way Smith walked to the huddle and acted after the play was over is nothing like the energy Simms displays.
paging Brett Ratliff...... Brett Ratliff please pick up the Green & white courtesy phone....... sad thing is, at this point a Brett Ratliff may be an improvement :sad:
I'd like to see Simms come in as the 3rd stringer. He might the guy to eventually take over. You never know how that diamond in the rough shit plays out. Besides. Its his second year with a new coordinator just like GMac & Snatchez. More time might help him get better.
Have to disagree.... baseball is pure individual in that, a player doesn't have to rely on the players on his team in order to excell, by putting up statistics to support his abilities. Whereby in basketball, since you brought the word dynamics into play, a player, be it a superstar or an average type still has to rely on the his team mates on the court to help him out. Case in point : assists. You need capable players around you to be credited with that particular stat. For scoring , you still need capable payers around you to defend the opposing team, to allow you to have a scoring opportunity. In baseball, a player bats over .300 - or hits 30 hrs, doesn't need to relay on his team mates. In the case of 1 stat that may require some help by his teamate(s), RBI, since it does require a player to be on base for that to occur. In Basketball, you have 4 other players on the court/field the same time as you that you require their assistance in to help you get to your 'goal'. My point is, a sport that has those players playing together at the same time , baseball is very unique in that no one player's teammate really has a physical impact to determine the other teammate's s fate... except perhaps if 2 or more teammates were to collide on the field chasing after a ball.
In any 'real' sports, a big threat must be always accounted for. Baseball? You can give him ball four all the time and just forget that he even existed.
Start Simms! I'll cave to convention and say this...START SIMMS! Sanchez-pffft. Geno-ah...nope. McElroy...back-up. The reasons should be totally obvious to even the most casual observer....on-field performance so far. Thursday will tell for sure. :jets:
If they play Smith and he sucks,. then Simms comes out again and lights it up, we will ready know what kind or GM and owner we have by what happens next. What I am predicting with this team is simple. If McElroy is health enough to play, Simms will never step on the field unless McElroy totally sucks or gets hurt. They really don't want to give the Simms supporters more ammunition to show what a huge mistake drafting Smith was, and Smith being beat out by a FA undrafted kid who played backup in college would be a huge embarrassment for the new GM after all the hype they gave selecting Smith.
Personally, I would say who cares, there are many UDFA's who've become great, EVERONE knows the draft is a crapshoot. We didn't take the genome until the 2nd rd when he was predicted to be taken in the 1st, so not so bad. Heck, we can always trade the genome to the bills.
neither simms or McElroy supporters will see that. the owner who signed off on el taco's contract won't let it. the gm who drafted smith won't let it. the head coach who has el taco on an arm tattoo won't let it. at this point, both simms and McElroy won't get reps with the 1's in practice of a regular season game, nor will either get a chance in the so-called open competition. been over 40 years, and this is just more of the same .:sad:
I think that if the powers that be actually thought that Simms was better than Smith, they would go with Simms. If they thought Simms was going to be one of those rare Kurt Warners / Tony Romos that are actually very good despite not being drafted, they would go with him in a heartbeat. Rex doesn't want to get fired. Idzik would be happy to suddenly have an elite QB. Woody does want to win a Super Bowl. But it is rare for any team to let that undrafted free agent QB ever start. Tom Brady would not have a career if not for injuries ahead of him on the depth chart. In Simms's position, the only way for him to ever become a starter is to make a roster as a backup, and then if guys ahead of him get injured and he does really well- that's his only path to ever becoming a starting QB. You have to be really good from the get-go. No growing pains allowed. No "he's a rookie", no "he needs to adjust to the speed of the game." Nope. If you're a late round QB or an undrafted one, you've got to be very good immediately. That's how it works with every team, not just the Jets. Teams will trust their scouting reports and all, and assume that if a guy wasn't drafted early, he has low talent / a low ceiling. That's what the Patriots thought about Tom Brady- spread offense QB (there had never been an elite one in NFL history) with bad combine numbers and not much muscle. I do think that with Mark being injured, Smith recently spraining his ankle, and McElroy having some kind of injury, and with Smith and Mark struggling at times, they may take all 4 QBs into the season. Simms is definitely going to get playing time in preseason game 4. Smith will most likely get the start, because Rex said that the competition is still ongoing. If Smith plays lights-out for 3 quarters he'll probably be named the starter. If he plays mediocre, then Sanchez will start if he is healthy. If Smith has another multi-interception game, a lot will depend on how Simms does. If Simms lights it up again, and Smith wasn't too impressive, and Mark is injured, that's Smith's path towards maybe getting the starting job. It would be very hard for him to get the nod for Week 1, but if Smith struggles they might elevate Simms to the #2 spot on the theory that Smith needs more time to be ready and they don't want to hurt his development by starting him too soon. Right now it seems like Mark is going to be able to play in Week 1, and he will probably be named the initial starter. Frankly, I just want the Jets to win and I'll support whoever they put under center. It would be amazing if Simms turned out to be great, but it's also possible that the scouts were right about him.
iunderstand your point, stated well. as for those scouts, how do you suppose their reports on guys like woodhead, chrebet, and victor cruz looked? didn't we just overhaul ( again) the jets scouting staff? it's not like they have been batting 1.000! that being said, even if the scouts recommended simms and mcelroy , they have no chance unless they get reps/playing time with the starters. the entire pre-season/training camp "open competition' has been one example of why it has been 44 years and counting without a championship. ps: ever wonder about the reports on robertson and gholson? both were high 1st round busts! soon to be joined by el taco.
Look, this is really simple. Matt Simms has looked good in camp playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers. He hasn't looked great, he's looked good. We wouldn't be talking about him at all if anybody else was looking good. The book on him is that he's an inaccurate passer and that his gun and he has a very good arm misses the target a lot. This is why he got recruited to Tennessee but then didn't get the chance to play all that much. The arm got him in the door, like it did with the Jets, but the accuracy limited his possibilities dramatically. Tony Romo was the best athlete in Division I-AA his senior season. He won the award for that honor. He wasn't drafted because very few Division I-AA players get drafted by the NFL but he had a hell of a season, one of two very good seasons at Eastern Illinois. Kurt Warner is more like a Matt Simms story. He had one good season at Northern Iowa and did not attract any attention from the NFL after his senior season. He went and played Arena League football for THREE seasons after that and this is apparently where he picked up his quick release and his ability to throw up the seams nearly perfectly. If Matt Simms wants a serious shot in the NFL he should be playing Arena football or Canadian football or anyplace that gets some exposure where his skills will allow him to play full time and then his results will determine whether the NFL values him or not.
Some guys play under pressure better than they practice and if you want to talk about accuracy in practice or preseason, Smith has been the worst on the team. If he wasn't the GM's pet he would be #3 on the depth chart. Simms has a passer rating of 137.5, no turn-overs, playing with a scrub line and scrub receivers who most of which are not even on the team now. If you wanted a game manager who will not turn the ball over he seems like the best fit. Sanchez fumble from center and the pick-six show he hasn't changed much and Smith is so raw and has no control over the offense its almost laughable, not to mention four turn-overs in three quarters of play with the better line and better receivers.
