Where did it all go wrong?

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  1. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    what a drama queen.......
     
  2. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    nobody is shirking accountability for Rex, but his success has been far greater than his failures. going to two straight AFCCG's is greater successes than the level of failures of an 8-8 and 6-10 seasons.

    what Rex has shown is he is capable of top-tier success and mid-tier failure. the owner is not the idiot if the fans can't gauge those two facts against one another and wait to see if Rex can turn it around.

    Rex has been the coach for 4 years, when would this "years ago" that other owners would have fired him? after the first AFCCG? the second straight AFCCG? or the 8-8 season after two straight AFCCG's? those are the only seasons that would qualify as years ago.

    please clarify your obviously dumb fuck statement.
     
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  3. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    yup, the golden age of leon hess was just great
     
  4. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I'm 80 years old, I want a winner!
     
  5. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    duplicate post
     
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  6. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    what does that have to do with saying it went down hill after woody bought the team?
    woody's jets have been in the playoffs about every other year, but its going downhill since he bought them?yea ok
     
  7. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Leon Hess said that when he hired Parcells, before he was 80, it was ok the team sucked...
     
  8. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I'm agreeing with you and making fun of Hess
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think that speaks more to the outstanding personnel department and also the continuity in defensive scheme that the Steelers have had since anyone can remember.

    The Steelers have spent more time on offensive players early because they know exactly which second and third round picks will fit directly into their scheme, not ones that have great measurables and may be able to be converted to their system.

    They hardly ever trade picks and never panic pick, because they continue to stockpile depth.

    That's why I HATE using Pitt as an example. They are the absolute model for continuity and consistency. No team, not even the Packers, can compete with that organization in that respect.
     
  10. FJF

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    lol. sorry,can't believe i missed that
     
  11. matt robinson 17

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    that's ok....
     
  12. Zach

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    They kept the Chin at HC for good 15 years regardless of on-field success, and he responded with 1 SB win.

    Ain't happening here in NY. Never.
     
  13. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Pretty much. Head coaches are chased out of town by the fans and media with regularity.

    If the Giants hadn't gotten hot at the right time in 2007, you can bet that Coughlin would have gotten canned like imitation crab meat in February.
     
  14. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    Yep, and actually, a lot of people thought he was going to get fired if they didn't beat the Jets on Christmas Eve and Dallas the following week to get into the playoffs in 2011 (let alone, win another SB).
     
  15. Br4d

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    The primary advantages that the Steelers have had are that they recognize that talent is highly mutable if approached from the right direction. They take smaller second tier college DE's and turn them into OLB's. They take slower second tier OLB's and turn them into ILB's. What they get out of that is a LB corps that are all looking to sack the QB and all playing bigger and faster than their contemporaries were in college.

    They cut players that still have some value because they recognize that the value is limited by age and injury and that finding another less limited option is the better answer. In order to do this they have to build depth across the board through the draft. Can't cut a guy a year early if you traded up for him (or anybody else for that matter) the overall numbers just don't work.

    It's not rocket science. It's just simple math and the Steelers are very good at it.
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    There are 25 or so near-billion dollar franchises that don't believe that math is so simple.
     
  17. Br4d

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    That's because lots of them are doing derivatives trading, trignometry and calculus instead of simple algebra. Once you know the number you need to get to it's pretty easy to get there. The simplicity of the Steelers plan is they're just solving for x = 1 over and over again and doing everything they can to make 1 enough.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That math wouldn't work without the best scouting team in the game.
     
  19. egbert souse

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    I believe he said that when he fired Pete Carroll and hired Rich Kotite. It worked out well for the old guy.
     
  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    When you're asking your scouts to look for simple things and they know exactly what to look for they have a good shot at being the best in the game.
     

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