I don't care how many games he's missed. He's injured a LOT. Eventually that catches up to you - either in performance or duration of a career.
Peyton Manning. That's why the Jets overloaded on CB's in the 2010 off-season. They didn't have the organizational experience to recognize that they were just as likely to get the Ravens or the Steelers deep in the playoffs the following season. There was also the little matter of trying to get leverage on Darrelle Revis in the looming holdout but that was a minor factor. The Jets loaded up to fight the last war and lost the next one in the process.
Its starts at the top. ATM we have the worst owner and HC in the NFL. What would you expect from this scenario? It’s not a QB coaches fault (or lack of a QB coach). It’s not an OC who was fired years ago fault. Its the fault of people who are supposed to be leading this franchise. Why so many fans on this board shirk accountability for Rex is beyond me. Any other team – any other owner would have fired him years ago. But our owner thinks profit comes from publicity and not wins.
The Revis contract was the beginning of the end. After that we had no money left and we lost a lot of our top FAs at the end of the year as a result. No, it wasn't chasing Aso. You have to always keep your options open. Besides people act like Weatherford would have stayed if we didn't. That's flat out false. The second failure was the Sanchez contract. Anyways I think this team will be miles better this year than last. Just look at our offensive production in the preseason compared to last year. The doom and gloomers need to give it a rest. This will be a different offense.
Where did it all go wrong: The Running Attack. The Switch From GnP to Pass Happy 2009- TJ and Greene= success (O-line dominant) 2010- LT and Greene= success (O-line above average) 2011- Aging LT, Greene, McKnight- we stink (O-line average) 2012- Greene, McKnight, Tebow, Powell- we stink (O-line below average) 2013- Ivory, Powell, Goodsen- verdict is out Greene was a beast #2 running back although idiot Jets fans think he stunk and some of them think McKnight is good :breakdance: Greene was not a beast #1 running back. Idiot Tannenbaum didn't see this. Rex, preached GnP, but idiots in our fan base and Idiot in our General Manger decided we are a passing attack. After the 2010 season, we should have buttoned up the Right Tackle and sought a feature back to compliment Greene. Sanchez, sucks at making decisions at the line of scrimage; reading a defense and evaluating favorable match ups. Holmes, is a shit production receiver. Holmes wants to catch touchdowns fly around the end zone; but he can't break a shoe string tackle to save his life. Burress, has no speed, and our #3 receiver was as old a Brunell. Under GnP, Sanchez could have thrived. Hand off the football, carry out a play action bootleg and throw a bomb down the sidelines. This is how Flacco got a $100million dollar contract. This past off season, if we weren't handcuffed by the shitties General Manager decisions since my being a fan of the NY Jets ('98) we could have snagged Reggi Bush. Reggie Bush and Greene would have been an awesome tandem in the backfield much like Chris Johnson and Greene are going to be. I will never understand why a General Manager that has a Defensive minded coach; and the defensive minded coach preaches GnP, would make decisions to hurt GnP. It cost the General Manager his job. I do believe we are close to being a passing attack without the one main ingredient, a quarterback that can read a defense and identify favorable match ups at the line of scrimmage. People that are jumping off the cliff are high on PCP though. We are probably going to be close to .500 team with this defense and some assembly of functional offense (much better than last year preseason). Problem is Geno is a Rook and he's not quite at the NFL level. The learning curve will take some time and we don't have all the pieces yet; but we are close. The thing that pisses me off is the idiots who didn't see how strong our running game was in 2009 and 2010. Greene was a solid, solid right hand to 1-2 punch. We tried to change our identity too much, now we are close to getting there; but we were perfectly fine where we were.
We won playoff games we werent supposed to win that created a false confidence within the organization. We pissed away picks because we thought it was the correct way to go about building a team. Gave big money to guys that you couldnt give big money to. We never had a QB who was the answer(which they ignored) Honestly, looking back winning a few playoff games was the worst thing that could have happened to a young HC and GM. The team was never as good as they thought it was.
First, you are definitely not a Jets fan, "winning playoff games was the worst thing that could happen." ok dude :up: Those play off games were won by our top 5 caliber, dominant starting defense and the shoulders of Shonn Greene, Thomas Jones, Ladainian Tomlinson and Brad Smith. Our passing attack grew confidence from our running attack. Never, the other way around.
IMO the playoff wins were great victories, a couple pretty convincing ones. getting to the post season was a bit more debatable - a combination of clutch plays, giving opponents, and the colts. while advertising that the team was and would be a consistent winner the management screwed the pooch with the execution of that plan.
I think the Jets wins, minus the win against the Pats in 2010, were all pretty predictable. The 2009 team had just dominated the Bengals in the last game of the regular season. It's hard to get right back up from that kind of pounding. I was expecting a Jets win in that game. The next game against the Chargers was like a gimme. The Chargers had no run game that year. They'd been living off of Philip Rivers to Vincent Jackson and his other receivers. When Revis took away Jackson where exactly were the Chargers going to go to score points? And I get that Jackson had a pretty good day but the SD offense was out of flow the whole game. In 2010 the Colts had a weak run game as well. Rex had an entire year of second-guessing himself on how to beat Peyton Manning and this time around he got it done. The win against the Pats was definitely in the category of gifts because it took brilliant games from vets like Shaun Ellis and Jerrico Cotchery and it required the people who touched the ball the most for the Jets, Mark Sanchez and Shonn Greene not to turn it over and they did. The Jets got Mark Sanchez best game on a day when everything else was going their way and got an improbable win out of that.
Hey- the playoff wins were awesome. The Pats game was an all time high....but that right there was where it ended. The team treated that game like it had won the SB and things went south ever since. The Jets put all of their eggs in one basket for 2010 and had zero long term plan after that. Plaxico, Derrick Mason etc....nothing the Jets did in 2011 or 2012 made any sense.
I should rephrase- the Jets treated these games as if they werent supposed to win and then loved telling the world how they were right and how dare you doubt us. The thing was in 09 they probably shouldnt have been there, Kaeding missed every FG, the Caldwell timeout the next year....I mean the Jets failed to recognize these games could have easily been losses too. The roster got noticeably worse after the 2010 season ended....and the only ones that didnt notice was Rex and Tanny.
no, he is hurt alot. injured players don't play. he has had not one major injury and nothing to say there will be any lingering effects. he was poked and prodded and checked by top notch drs. he was considered a top pick despite his history. but since the jets drafted him we should consider him a walking time bomb? fuck off with that shit. any other team and he is a steal at 9.
You're wrong. The Jets played a balls to the wall 2nd half in Pittsburgh. They were one offensive position away from going to the Big dance. 2011 started strong. We won a most memorable game at home on the Anniversary of the September 11th attacks. We followed up the win with a pounding of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We went into Oakland and lost a game where Sanchez threw for over 300yds and missed the game wining touchdown by a cunt hair. The road got terrible from their, in what many fans call the death of Sanchez in Baltimore. RIP. Followed by a shalacking in New England. By the time the men returned home the media had stories and stories and stories. The place went into meltdown.
The Jets stunk in Pittsburgh. They got their butts totally kicked. Regardless of the semi comeback in the second half- they werent ready to play. 2011 the team stunk. Romo threw a pass right to Revis. We had a blocked punt for a TD. The roster was just disorganized.
You must be an absolute idiot if you think Rex Ryan is the worst HC in the NFL. Sorry mods for the insult but I think I should get a pass for this one.
Watch a reply of Pittsburgh buddy. Greene was running through linebackers in the second half, Cotchery scored, Holmes scored, Ben had no where to go with the ball; we were knocking on the door LOUD! 2011 stunk, but not until that dreadful road trip Oakland-Baltimore-New England. The papers ran with that road trip the rest of the season. We still finished 8-8 dipshit.
