What Would The Jets Have To Do To Make You Abandon Them

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  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Cablevision actually put up a bid for the land and when denied they sought review/legal action. The NFL was annoyed at this and moved the draft away from MSG owned theater for one year. I think once the Olympics passed over NYC the interest for it fizzled out. People please correct me if I'm wrong, this is now about 10 years ago, wow.

    And to the people saying the Jets would never move, I know that. The question was what it would take though, and moving and changing the name would probably do it for me. I know it's not possible, but that's probably what it would take.
     
  2. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    they are waiting for a barry bonds homerun.
     
  3. Aewhistory

    Aewhistory Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely Falco, the baseball Giants, Dodgers and the Nets would never move from NY*.... never happen. And the Islanders would never come painfully close to leaving as well because of financial instability among other problems. Then of course you have other quasi examples, such as the Jets and Giants would never leave NYC. And finally the Rangers never talked about leaving NYC for NJ in the early '80s before the Devils came to the Meadowlands.

    In fact, the only major NY team that hasn't entertained some sort of move, either within the NY metro area or leaving it entirely, is the Knicks and I may simply be ignorant as to their history as I don't follow them at all.

    Why do people think NY is too big to lose things? This shows a painfully poor understanding of history....

    *-The NJ Nets started out as a NY franchise. In reality they are moving BACK to NY.
     
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  4. Aewhistory

    Aewhistory Well-Known Member

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    Same thing was said about LA. The only difference is the level of commitment in NY versus LA. If that changed I can assure you NY teams would consider moving.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And the NFL would never let the Rams or Raiders leave LA either
     
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    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    The Nets actually started out in NJ as the Americans. Not that that makes it right or anything.
     
  7. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    That's right, played at the Teaneck Armory- my kids used to play indoor soccer there.

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  8. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Sheldon Silver.
    "They" was Sheldon Silver.
    Thank Sheldon Silver....and by extension, partisan sheep who continue to rubber stamp this corrupt bigot into office....drip, drip, drip...term after term.


    Forget this as a bargaining chip for the 2012 Olympics, a needed 'larger space' alternative to the "next-door-failure" the Javits Center, clearing delapidated piers and developing the West Side Rail Yards let alone provide for thousands of jobs, etc. Thank Shelly Silver.

    Thank Sheldon Silver.
    Thank Sheldon Silver. Bloomberg wanted it, the Jets wanted it. Silver had it squashed.
    ^ This. The Yonkers site (Yonkers Raceway/Empire City Casino) might've been a good fit, I'm not sure how a 70,000 seat stadium could've been shoehorned into that NYS Thruway/Central Park Ave--Yonkers Avenue corridor, but that aside, anything but the grey box (and the NYG) they settled for .

    Do me a favor: take your partisan politics, shove 'em you know where and then come back to this thread when you have a scintilla of knowledge on the West Side Stadium subject, specifically who the "players" were (besides Dolan/MSG), where they stood and the role they played in this.

    Oh and while I myself had some grave misgivings about Bloomberg, do also look up to see how much of his own personal loot Bloomberg gave to the City of New York to fund programs in all sectors (hint: in the hundreds of millions of dollars). NYC mayor's $225,000 a year salary? Bloomberg's was $1.00 a year. One dollar.

    I resent Johnson jumping in bed with a guy (John Mara) who has not been above taking shots at the "circus" Jet brand from his loft in "classy" Giant-land. No knock on my Jersey brethern, but it also would've been nice to not only to have had theirown stadium, but one that had a 'NY' address not only in the figurative shadows of, but literally in the midst of the greatest city in the world. New York City: home of the New York Jets.

    The Giants? .......... pass the McDonalds and then look for the Vince Lombardi something or other signs...... : )
     
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  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Who was going to pay for a NYC stadium, what would it have cost (3+B?) and how much would they have had to charge for PSLs? It was being planned right at the start of the worst recession in modern times. No city would have paid for it and certainly no owner in their right mind would pay what it would cost to build it in NY so this argument is really ridiculous.
     
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  10. JStokes

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    Yup. A lot of kids don't understand the dynamics at play back then.

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  11. Big Blocker

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    Ftr I was opposed to the WSS, very much so. No tailgating, the huge site development number, the one time only tie in to the Olympics that would not support the stadium long term... The numbers imo did not add up. Complaining about political opposition is beside the point. A project like that always has political opposition. It is up to the proponents to make the case on the merits. They did not.

    The real problem with the WSS was that Woody was so invested in it as a real estate play that his only Plan B was the deal with the Giants. That was flat out stupid.

    The best place for the stadium would have been the Yonkers Raceway site. Equally distant from LI and North Jersey, accessible by subway to all of NYC, plenty of parking, access to existing highways. And enough land in a fairly central location. Perhaps not perfect, but far better than what Woody saw as his only Plan B.
     
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  12. The 1985er

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    Even the Yankees were contemplating a move to NJ. Btw the Nets were an NJ team first. Then they moved to Long Island then they moved back to NJ then they moved to BK.
     
  13. nyjunc

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    That is the worst spot, it would take 4 hours to get out of that place after a game unless they did some major construction to the roads around the Stadium, add in no train options and it is a disastrous site.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The Yanks were going to move to NJ like the Jets were going to move to LA as reported in 2001. They were using those sites as leverage to get new Stadiums built where they wanted them.
     
  15. Ralebird

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    A reconstructed Shea was the correct answer but it was a question Johnson never wanted asked.
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I'd prefer to be in NYC but the meadowlands is a better spot than the Shea area.
     
  17. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    It never took three hours to get out of the Shea parking lot. You live in New Jersey, don't you?
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    No, I live in Westchester. I never have any problems getting out of the Meadowlands but I know where to park and best route out of Stadium. I have had more problems at Shea going to a few Met games and we'd have a lot more people at our games than at Met games.
     
  19. al_toon_88

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    rico college Well-Known Member

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    If I felt like starting a stupid a$$ thread like this, I would just go ahead and quit on this team.
     

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