Running back depth, wide receivers, tight ends, depth in the secondary. The d-line is great and the o-line is good. The QB has the skills and potential at this point and hopefully will develop. There are a number of glaring holes.
I will say this about the OL. Starting a rookie third round pick because the vet player who originally started the season but could not hold onto his job makes me question allowing Slauson to go when they knew Moore was likely to retire or leave. They so far have been lucky that Colon has stayed healthy given his recent history. Starting two new guards even including a vet like Colon was likely to cause some problems, and we have to remember that Howard is roughly average, while Ferguson and Mangold, as good as they are, are not perfect, and can be limited if the guy in between them is mediocre. I was really down on Slauson the first year he started for the Jets, but I have to admit I'd feel better if he was still on the team now. What was the upside to letting him go? I have forgotten. But that's only a small piece.
I truly believe scouting/talent evaluation is the issue...it seems like every team in the league finds late round picks or undrafted guys that are immediate contributors to the team...the only exception is us...yes recently Wilkerson Richardson mangold dbrick have been solid draft picks, but they are all first rounders...let's remember the picks that were busts, Dwayne Robertson, Vernon gholston, taking mike nugent in the 2nd round, trading picks to move up for Sanchez, it just seems like the talent evaluation isn't there and what doesn't help is that we have an owner that is completely clueless...it's important to have an owner that cares about winning...as much of a prick jerry jones is, the cowboys have talent, their problem is coaching...with a good coach they can be a very good team but that's besides the point. With us, we have Rex who I believe is a decent coach, morningweg who is a good coordinator, but where's the talent? Tons of guys in the draft or undrafted and it seems like we have no offensive talent whatsoever. I don't think geno is the future but I also don't think he's as bad as Sanchez was. I feel like if you give geno weapons he is capable of delivering wins for this team, but how many years can go by in the draft when decisions are made to draft guys like dee milliner who have had 15 surgeries already can we afford to just waste...good and great teams find undrafted guys and hit on at least 4 of their 7 picks in the draft and the guys in the first 2 rounds are expected to be immediate contributors or players that are expected to be around for years...it seems like we can't evaluate talent like other teams and it will always be a problem for this franchise until there is new ownership or a completely new scouting department...oh yeah we also took Kyle Wilson in the first round too...let's not forget that gem
JetDynasty you have to give the Jets SOME credit. In recent years they've hit on late round draft picks. In 2009 we got Slauson in the 6th round, and he was a solid player. In 2011 we got Kerley in the 5th round and Powell in the 4th round. In 2012 we got Josh Bush in the 6th and Antonio Allen in the 7th. Not to mention undrafted players like Cumberland and Damon Harrison.
Right, but both picks were no brainers at the time they were made. The Jet's MLB was an open position going into 2004 and Vilma was sitting there on the pick. The Jets had no edge rusher going into 2008 and there was Gholston on the pick.
First of all, drafting for need is usually a bad idea. Secondly, what needed fixing was the front seven, not necessarily MLB. Some of us wanted Wilfork who turned out the be the best available player.
The Jets had Ferguson and D-Rob at the two tackle spots. There's no way that taking Wilfork was the right move given that Vilma deserved the slot on talent. Gholston deserved the 6 slot on talent. Those picks were both who they should have been. The one real concern with Vilma as the congenital knee problem but a decade later that problem has been no problem so I think the choice to ignore the issue was a coin flip that worked out in the Jets favor. Ignoring D-Rob's knee was another coin-flip and that one got more iffy results.
Anyone who types 'franchize QB' is just being lazy. Only 2 or 3 teams out of 32 have 'it' at QB...the remaining 90% of teams have to be a bit more creative, some more than others. - Consistency is very important but only if your staff has a solid plan and is capable of carrying it out year after year. With Idzik running the show now, it's wait and see. So far Idzik seems to be sold on building through the draft and avoiding the huge contracts that kill a team's future. Which may be a good thing, time will tell. - Outside of lucking into a franchise QB, Idzik must stay true to the trenches on both sides of the ball while grabbing a star player here and there whenever possible...that's where a really good GM earns his pay check. - If/When the jets get really good and draft in the bottom of every round for the next 10 years, having a continuity and a solid strategy is even more important. This is one part that will suck when we get there....no more Genos, MoWilks, Couples, or Richardsons falling into our laps...it's all 'Kyle Willsons' and below. The most important thing is a really good GM, a good coaching staff, and a really good vision.
The 2 biggest things are lack of a good QB and trading away too many draft picks. Tanny went all in a few times via trading picks and making big off season splashes. This hurts depth, and is why we fell off so harshly in 2011 & 2012. I think we just need to focus on drafting offensive talent. Next draft we should have a good amount of picks. Focus on the long term rather than short term. Once we get a base built, we can start making splashes like that to put us over the edge.
We already have that. If were selected in the 1st round he would have gotten more respect. He is the same guy from the beginning of the 2012 season was projected as the 1st overall pick. We're lucky to have him in the early 2nd. I think you'll change your mind once we go on a little winning streak in which he put up 300 with 3tds. Believe me, Geno know how to do that. He is legit. You'll see.
The Jets have been close but close enough for almost 10-15 years now. They can't consistently make the playoffs, but they don't consistently suck either. Woody bought the Jets in January of 2000, since then the Jets went: 2001: 10-6, playoffs 2002: 9-7, playoffs 2003: 6-10 2004: 10-6, playoffs 2005: 4-12 2006: 10-6, playoffs 2007: 4-12 2008: 9-7 2009: 9-7, playoffs 2010: 11-5, playoffs 2011: 8-8 2012: 6-10 So overall, they haven't been terrible, but they haven't been consistently great either. 6 out of the 12 years they have made the playoffs, 4 times they've won the 1st game there. THe 6 times they didn't make it haven't been downright awful with a couple 4-12, a couple 6-10, a 8-8, and a 9-7. What don't you see though, 0 byes. Also, only1 home game. They haven't gotten over the top to get into an advantageous position in the playoffs. I guess my theory is we haven't been patient enough. We think we are only a piece away from becoming "contenders" and not fully realizing that we are pieces away. We switch pieces unnecessarily and our planning has been in the "what can we do to succeed this season" instead of "what can we do to be successful for the next 5 seasons". And then the cop out part of my theory, bad luck. Really though, some bad luck. A SB win allows you breathing room to be patient and to hold off the fans, the media, and changes. It lets you take things more slowly, more efficiently. Disclaimer, I could be 100%, but that's my theory. THere is nothing terribly wrong with the franchise since Woody took over, they just haven't been bad enough at the right times or good enough at the right times. So that means you have to be patient and not try to quickly fix things and think things are better than they are. Examples: 2003 we go 6-10. 2004 draft has Rivers, Eli, Big Ben, Fitzgerald before we pick. 2006 we got 10-6. In 07 draft we trade up for Revis but AP, Patrick Willis, Lynch, and Calvin picked ahead of us. 2007 we go 4-12, 2008 draft has Matt Ryan going at #3 head of us and only 8 pro bowlers in the first round. A little bit of everytihng mixed in, but I would go with patience overall. We aren't really good at the right times and we aren't really bad at the right times. It's better than being really bad all the time, but every fan wants a SB no matter how it happens
Nah, I just believe after 5 years Rex might have gotten the HC role down, but he hasn't. He is a great DC, but piss poor on overall team management. Can't wait til we get Rex and Sanchez off the books in 2014 so that we can start building a balanced team.
