I don't think Idzik is really all in on Geno due to the fact that Geno was a second round pick and has a low salary. If Geno is awful and Sanchez starts (and also is awful) then Rex loses that battle (and probably his job) and Idzik can just draft another QB in 2014. I've thought about this before. What if this is really going on, and at the end of the preseason there is no consensus? What if Rex just announces Sanchez is going to start? Would Idzik try to force Rex's hand just by cutting Sanchez? We could end up with "the circus" rearing its ugly head. If the Jets want the circus to leave town, they still need to cut the clown. NO SANCHEZ 2013! :grin:
Is that all you got? Throwing around the typical "system QB" argument? Nice. Im sure people are going to really respect that.
Exaggerate much? Geno was but one pick - a 2nd round pick at that. From the outlook, Milliner will be a day 1 starter, and so is Richardson. That to me is a out of the park home run. And the list continues - Brian Winters looks like a solid pick that will contribute for years down the road, and Bohanon kid looks mighty fine to me, as a WCO fullback. Given the amount of holes this team had, I'd say he did really good job of assembling good stock of talents. I initially didn't like Geno Smith pick, frankly speaking. It was more or less because I thought Jets should do better to draft an OLB prospect that could start day 1 [the likes of Damontre Moore, Tank Carradine and Kevin Minter were all still on board, if you know what I mean] and I didn't like the QB class of this draft that much. I really thought Jets would be better off if they drafted a QB next year. But I can understand where he is coming from - Jets need competition across the entire roster, and nobody was there to challenge Sanchez. I wouldn't say this draft was a failure even if Geno Smith fails to impress down the road. If at all, he will make a fine backup material once Sanchez is offloaded.
I think geno was a terrible pick. We have 2 bd qb s on the roster. Barring a sanchez miracle season, we are looking for franchise qb next year. Geno isn't the answer.
I wrote this in the other Geno thread: This line of thought as permeated TGG ever since Sanchez survived the June 1st cut. And now it seems to gaining steam. First, Geno IS very talented, but very rookie-ish. While we all hoped for our very own RG3, Geno seems to be more in the mold of Rogers, Eli, and others who couldn't crack the line up day one. Play Mark for the full year, sit Geno Smith. Geno will most definitely benefit from week after week of practice to hone his footwork and to master the play book, which is especially complicated. If the Jets only had Geno and last year's back up or some other team's cast off on the roster, then the pressure to start Geno would be even more glaring. But fortunately, we still have Mark Sanchez, who seems to be prone to his old tricks but also seems to be quite adequate in MM's WCO. If I were Idzik and I wanted Geno to succeed, he'd ride the pine, watch the games unfold, hone his skills in practice, and bide his time. It's Sanchez we're talking about. Geno won't have to wait long. In the best case scenario, Mark plays well enough to hold serve throughout the season. This give Geno a full 16 games season and 16 weeks of practice to get it all right. Learning from Sanchez is a double gift. Geno will learn what to do and more importantly, WHAT NOT TO DO. Next season when Geno is ready to take the reigns, he will be going into his 2nd training camp under MM and his new WCO. He will be LIGHT YEARS ahead of where he is today. Just like we expect a lot more out of Hill with a year under his belt, the same will hold true for Geno. Plus if Sanchez surprises all of us and gets us the last WC spot, Idzik will easily get at least a 2nd round draft pick for him. Plus Mark's trade will not require the new team to take on a huge salary. Hell, with 3 playoff runs in 5 years, Idzik may even steal a 1st. In summary: Regardless of how Geno does in game 3, and with Mark showing a thimble full of promise, sit Geno for the year then make the switch. We'll get a much more polished Geno and a lot more in return for Sanchez.
If Geno isn't the answer then give me Pete Thomas from NC State That kid is gonna be good Prototype size, great arm, touch and mobility
In a way I kind of agree with you. Sure, a lot of us would like to see this team win as many games as possible this year. But if we do win more than 2, but less than say, 9, then it is basically a waste of a season and we'll be stuck with the same unknown at the QB position for next season (unless something major happens with Sanchez (LOL) or Geno this season). However, if we completely tank this season, it is just one agonizing season much worth it if we can grab Teddy. Then, we will have him as our franchise QB, and see what he can do for the next years to come.
OMG that's idiotic. There is NO scenario that includes extending Sanchez. None. To the OP, part of the reason you need to start Geno is to know whether he will be the guy. Beating Sanchez in a preseason battle is a stupid criteria for that.
Tank for an unknown Yeah that's how you win in the NFL Let the young guys play All of them and see what they got It will not only give them experience but going into 2014 we'd have a great core since the young guys got a ton of reps and a year under the systems 2013 should be a transition year where the only goal is progress
This. Why does Smith get only one year or even a few starts to see what he has? You can't tell how good a first year QB will be after only a partial season. And to those who say they know Smith is not the answer because they "watch" college football, I say that is complete BS. Even pro personnel guys can't predict success that easily . And those that are saying draft a QB next year are making the dumbest statements of all. There is little chance of the Jets getting Bridgewater and he is no sure thing . Next years draft is not QB rich as some thought. There are no guarantees that a QB of value will be available whenever it is that the Jets pick next May. There is an entire season of football to be played. Can we stop with this useless negative speculation? Smith is going to start at some point this season and he will likely be the starter in 2014. Sanchez is getting five years and Smith may get a few games? Give me a break.
Because that's a link to a site in which uses an NFL method for QBR's. The numbers I posted were simply based off college production. For some reason NCAA QB Ratings use a system in which grades out higher QB ratings.
i feel as though the people hoping for a new QB from next years draft are a bit too impatient and pessimistic over what Geno has to offer. why are we assuming the worst out of the guy? he either has to put up huge like andrew luck or we move on? thats a terrible scenario as far as I can tell, because it would mean we go into next season with another qb drafted from the first that will have rookie learning curve all over again for a larger price. it just seems redundant and hyperbolic. theres an intermediate scenario that could occur, he could be average and play well enough that we believe we should double down on him and give him support through the draft or free agency. development takes time, thats up for sanchez but smith still has it in spades. I mean are we really going for elite or bust here? is it at all possible that he just plays okay? and that we continue with that to make it better? why are we so willing to press the rest button so quickly for a hypothetically better result in the future that would be more expensive? should he lose the competition he's gonna get the second half of the season to himself anyway (unless sanchez rocks out loud in which case yay!) and something tells me he won't be the next great thing when he does. but he shouldn't be so bad that they search elsewhere.
the bottom line is sanchez sucks...so you better of going with someone else and train him to be better....
Geno deserves at least 2 years to show signs of progress By the 2015 draft we'd know where he's going with his career But I say let him get 4 years(his contract) and part ways if he flops or extend him if he doesn't In 2017 my man Keller Chryst will be entering the league and he's what we need if Geno doesn't work out
I don't get it, now Geno isn't the answer at all? Geeze, kid hasn't even played a NFL snap and the entire fan base has given up on the guy. I think he hasn't outplayed Sanchez this off season so far, but I'm still gonna say let the kid develop some before saying he isn't the answer at all. He might not be the answer this year, but some development may say other wise next year. It's amazing how it's just feast or famine with sports teams fanbases.
Jets should draft a QB this year Sanchez or no Sanchez. Doesn't have to be a high pick but Jets should draft a QB just in case.
Geno should be given every opportunity to play because we know what option M does for us already. I am excited to see Geno play Saturday night.
