I would rather just get Drake Maye in 2024 over Manning and start a year earlier. If we go with Zach next year that just may happen.
White wanted to play two weeks ago. In his mind he was ready to go. He practiced all week and looked great during warmups. Then he shit the bed. It may be who he is, no tinfoil hat needed.
I would explore the veteran market but at the same time if Mike White ends up our QB next year I would be completely fine with that.
lets get real here>>>have absolute garbage or semi pro players at best sitting in the QB room All of you (with a few exceptions) talk like M White Flacco Strevelor and lastly Zach the Bust of the Year ,are decent QBs?? And cant wait to bring MW back to be injured before he completes a pass ..LMAO ..You are ALL in complete denial!..There is little or NO evidence MW is competent playing just 3 fuckin games ?? How can you POSSIBLY contemplate bringing any Jet QB in to lead a Team that has not thrown for a TD for 6 games ..and of course we are one of the worst offenses in the league We fucked and screwed thanks to JD..face it Woody..dont listen to the Ny Post beat writers NO MULLIGANS for Saleh and JD..GET A NEW GUY to answer some serious questions about the whole team If you have to pay these losers after you cut them off thats too bad..the FANS deserved better
Jets could easily have drafted Payton Manning if only Parcells would have committed to taking Payton #1 overall. Parcells held the #1 overall draft pick, but he refused to commit to Payton so Payton's dad told Payton to stay in school another year. Then went #1 overall the following year to the Colts.
what’s the better solution? we don’t have a O Line, so we can’t pay big money to a QB. Accept we have to go cheap QB, draft/sign OL or blow everything up.
Offer White a solid "journeyman / back-up" rate with playing time / performance incentives. Sign another vet to compete in camp, and have Zach has QB3 developmental prospect (theyre stuck due to his contract, so may as well see if they can turn him into SOMETHING useful / tradeable)... and realistically will be drafting a QB in '24 that can hopefully SIT for a season or 2
This is like the 1978 Jets scenario. Richard Todd played by ZW and Matt Robinson played by Mike White. The defense is trending upwards due to the Buttle, Klecko, Salaam and Bobby Jackson drafts. The offense has enough tools with Kevin Long, Scott Dierking, Wesley Walker, Jerome Barkum and Derrick Gaffney. However the Jets go on a 3 year tour of mediocrity anyway because the QB situation is completely unstable.
Well I don't see a star QB falling in their lap anytime soon... so hopefully they draft their O'Brien in that scenario.. but find a way to keep him upright this time.
Mike White had to show without a shadow of a doubt that he was the man. He needed to play at a high level and win. He didn’t, some his fault some obviously not. But he didn’t give us the answer of whether he can be a legit starter or not, therefore we can’t take the chance of paying him good money and counting on him. Mike White is a goner. We can’t sign him as a backup with Zach’s contract and the need to pay another FA/Trade option, and we can’t not sign another option and go into next year with Zach and Mike White as our only options. So yeah, Mike White is a goner.
This Jet team could go a long way with a Brad Johnson to Trent Dilfer quality QB. Jameis Winston, Nick Foles, Derek Carr ( in a Raiders cut him and Jets can sign him at about two thirds what he is making now scenario), even Matt Ryan in a scenario where the Colts move on again from a vet QB who didn't get the job done for them. They'd take the big cap hit before any trade.
Likely, tho I'm not as certain as you seem to be. But if he does walk and gets signed decent money, that should help us in the compensatory pick evaluation.
We probably will be drafting a QB, either this year or next, but realistically, unless something fundamentally changes with how this team works with young QBs, they shouldn't bother wasting draft picks on QBs. They've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that either they can't properly identify QB talent that translates to the NFL, or they can't develop it, or both. They need to give that up and rely on paying - or overpaying - veteran QBs who have enough success elsewhere that they won't be subject to being ruined by the Jets.
The topic is about what to do with Mike White. Of course the O-line needs to be addressed. Douglas needs to put the bulk of the resources that he has at his disposal, both in free agency and in the draft, towards fixing the O-line issue. Part of this can be solved if Wilson can improve enough to become a serviceable backup QB to the new guy brought in to be QB1, as that would create potentially additional savings that could be used towards the signing of another lineman.
Keep the status quo and make sure there is a genuine QB competition next season. White can be re-signed for a reasonable "show me" one-year deal. ZW still has a year of his rookie contract remaining and its according cap hit. Use your resources otherwise this coming season to build and fortify the offensive line. Beside (theoretically) helping either Mike White or Zach Wilson to perform without risking their life every time they drop back to pass, it will lay the foundation for - hopefully - securing the quarterback position for the following season. Under such a scenario, either White or Wilson show they are worthy of the position next season (and will be accordingly extended) or, if not, use the cap space gained with Zach's (and presumably, White's) subsequent departure to sign a QB of (at least) mediocre capability. It also probably wouldn't hurt to spend a late round draft pick on a QB project every year or two that you can possibly develop for a couple of seasons without any pressure. Left unsaid is the Mike White nightmare scenario that lurks in the darkest corners of every tortured Jets fan's mind... Belichick and the Pats sign Mike White to a two year deal. Playing without any fear of being benched and behind a competent offensive line - that is also allowed to hold without being penalized - Mike White leads the Pats to win the AFC East division, and takes the Pats to Super Bowl two or three times out of the next five years. . . I do "keed" about this... But, I can't say this scenario has not flashed into my mind more than a few times.
White wouldn't be able to say healthy enough to be the one responsible for taking the Patriots to the championship in that scenario.
This strategy will have us paying 30-40m at the QB position for the likes of Zach, White, and said veteran starter. Daniel Jones is going to set the barometer, and the talk is 3yrs 90m for him with 60m guaranteed. That’s the current price for an above avg QB with a lot of promise and a lot of likelyhood that he WON’T ever be elite. That puts Mike White solidly in the 3yr 45m range because if we don’t pay that someone else will. Zach costs us 8m for the season which is completely untenable for a 3rd string QB. So White and Zach alone are going to cost us 20-25m combined. Now add in that veteran starter you want. Gonna pay him 20-30m a year unless you’re talking about a guy like Minshew, who will be slightly more than White, probably 20m a year. So yeah, paying the QB room 40m for Minshew/White/Wilson is a sure fire recipe to get Joe Douglas fired. Mike White is gone unless the Jets are stupid enough to roll with just White and Wilson, which they may be.
