What did the Jets see in Hackenberg?

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  1. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    So after one season, of which he was held up by Allen Robinson, he was lauded as a top pick?
    Giving him way too much credit, he is proving himself once again.
     
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    Not all pro-set offenses are created equal.
     
  3. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    So your saying he needs skilled players around him to help him make it in the NFL.
     
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  4. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Who doesn't tbf lol
     
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  5. Skicats

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    I think that was RM's point, you know sarcasm.
     
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  6. jerseyjay14

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    Mac has shown a poor eye for talent... maybe not as bad as idzik and jury still out since its only been a couple year but outside of signing/trading long term proven veterans like brandon marshall the guys he has added havent looked great.

    Mauldin, Lee, smith, petty, hackenberg,burris, jenkins.... its basically just leonard williams... #1 overall talent who fell into his lap who looks like an NFL player.

    and then there is the blantant refusal to replace key postions: CB, Edge rusher, LT, C...

    he has done a pretty awful job so far especially if you consider the coaching staff he picked has been worse then the players
     
  7. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Was it, blimey I never noticed
     
  8. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    He needs more than that, but yes he may become below average again.
     
  9. grkmanga31

    grkmanga31 Well-Known Member

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    Jets saw a smart QB, that if put in the right system with pieces around him can eventually become a pretty good QB. But expectations and projections don't always go as planned and Hack may be a prime candidate for that. The Jets have stripped the offense of talent and as a result he looks lost out there. Now, not all of this is because of the Jets. Hack is literally going for his first read because he seems to be worried of incoming pressure. If these two games have shown anything its that Hack is probably not ready and to be quite honest, I'm not sure he ever will be for the Jets. Macc wanted him to take the job but you can't ignore the product on the field and it isn't very good.

    What's even more worrisome is Hack doesn't seem to be able to read a defense and doesn't seem to know where pressure is coming. Obv this comes with the territory for a lot of young QB's but I was banking on his smarts, thinking he would be able to do that. He just seems lost at this point.
     
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  10. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Hack will never be a franchise quarterback. The lingerie league would embarrass him. Time to move on away from him. He's wasted enough time and reps. Because of this we don't have Watson, Mahomes or Kizer on our roster.
     
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  11. edray10

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    You may be right, but the Jets coaching staff and front office seem to think otherwise. If they agreed with your assessment they'd be happy to just start Petty and leave Hack as a 3rd string backup and then quietly cut him next year. They wouldn't be so insistent on having him start/play, where everybody could see their drafting failure first hand.

    He seems to have the most difficultly right now calling protections, pre-snap reads and telegraphing his passes, but that's common with rookies. I guess we'll see.
     
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    When it comes to Hack, think about the politics involved. Macc's first high profile dp was ridiculed by most of the league as a 2nd rd overreach and a mistake. Result, Macc is out to prove them wrong. So much so that he stacked the deck this preseason in an concerted effort to have Hack win the job. Every time another recently drafted Qb plays well, Macc's decision to draft Hack looks worse. Trubisky, Kizer, Mahomes.. all playing well enough or at the very least, much better than Hack. To pour salt on the wound, his own 4th rd pick is outplaying his 2nd rd mistake too. Macc needs Hack to be a FQB. If Hack shows anything at all this year, you can forget them drafting a Qb in '18 even if we're in the top 3. Just like the last several years, the BPA will magically be a defensive one and the Jets will remain exactly who and what they are. An irrelevant franchise in a big market.
     
  14. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Then it is a good thing for Hack not to play. To pass up a QB in the 1st this year because of Hackentrash is ridiculous. Thankfully, Hack probably doesn't have it in him this year to show enough to warrant passing on QB.

    Thank god.
     
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    Except he's not a rookie. He started at least 2 years at Penn State and he's had two years of NFL training. He's got the QB whisper and that burn out coach Bates. Then you had that video floating around showing Hack to be leaps and bounds better at calling all the protections, pre snap reads and lighting up the scoreboard.
     
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  16. tbruner12

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    And now all the smart ass genius QB whisperer's on this board, have suddenly hid their heads under a rock. Hack sucks, Period...
    I'm sure anybody can see that?
     
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  17. JethroTull

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    It obviously was a huge red flag that as a 2nd round prospect he couldn't even dress last year.
     
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  18. Mainejet

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    It's not what did the Jets see, it's what did MAC see and no one else? This is a direct reflection on the GM and Hack is far worse than both Sanchez and Geno. I'm sorry, but what I see is a GM on the fringe of losing his job? Besides Leo, virtually every pick prior to this year is GARBAGE. Did people see Darron Lee get beaten like a rented mule by Evan Engram in the Giants game? Meanwhile, with the departure of David Harris, Lee is supposed to be our best linebacker?

    Objectively speaking, the Jets are WORSE right now than they ever were under Tanny or Idzik. This, 3 years AFTER Mac was supposed to be doing some excellent drafting and making this team one of the best.
     
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  19. Red Menace

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    I'm no QB whisperer, but to say he has experience is a reach, he played a couple of quarters total in last years pre-season and this years pre-season.

    Do you guys think that's enough time for any QB to come in and say yep, it's all figured out?

    You guys are smarter than that, the guy has not played in one regular season game with the starters and jet fans want him gone.

    You guys think TB is going to help develope any QB the jets bring in, they will be on their 3rd offensive scheme next year when everyone gets fired and a new HC comes in.

    It's no way to develop any QB, even Petty who is showing some potential, needed 3 years to fine tune his abilities.

    There are some ingredients needed to develop a QB, time, real game time experience and weapons, it's not done in pre-season.
     
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  20. PulseJet

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    That's right. So why is Bowles pushing Hack down our throats when Petty is showing potential? They actually did it right with Petty. He may be decent. Why push Hack?
     

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