In Order of Most Valuable Franchises 1. Cowboys 2. Redskins 3. Patriots 4. Giants 5 Jets 6 Houston Texans 7 Philadelphia Eagles 8 Indianapolis Colts 9 Chicago Bears 10 Baltimore Ravens 11 Denver Broncos 12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13 Miami Dolphins 14 Carolina Panthers 15 Cleveland Browns 16 Green Bay Packers 17 Kansas City Chiefs 18 Pittsburgh Steelers 19 Seattle Seahawks 20 Tennessee Titans 21 Cincinnati Bengals 22 New Orleans Saints 23 St Louis Rams 24 Detroit Lions 25 Arizona Cardinals 26 San Diego Chargers 27 Buffalo Bills 28 Jacksonville Jaguars 29 Atlanta Falcons 30 San Francisco 49ers 31 Oakland Raiders 32 Minnesota Vikings
That's a bad comparison because the mlb slotting system is a joke and many around the baseball want it changed come time for the next CBA. A better example for what people what is the be the NBA , and if the NFL does implement the slotting I'm assuming they do it right and create a system that is more strict like the NBA system . The difference is also that in baseball the overpriced bonuses are usually still small money compared to everything else (the Red Sox vastly overpaid for Lars Anderson in the 18th round but he still only got 825,000). NFL rookies on the other hand are getting pro bowl money right off the bat and this is something that owners and current players want changed pretty much across the board, so I don't think overpaying on amateur talent works quite the same when rookies are already making almost as much as everyone else to begin with .If the Cowboys and Redskins decide they want to pay rookies at a level that makes them the top earners at their posistion , that will probably end up hurting them down the road anyways. It shouldn't matter if the slotting system is legitimate anyways though.
I'm a little confused you answered that way. I'm not saying the fans are not passionate for their team. What I am saying is that the fans that are the most passionate are not going to (are not able to) pay tens of thousands of dollars for PSLs. Passion does not always equal Spending Huge Amounts of Money. And I am saying that it is a midwestern thing, not a Packer fan thing. Again, I don't understand why you took that tone with me (the bit about I'd get no sympathy from you). I didn't think I disrespected you in any way in my reply; I was just giving you a different POV, from a midwestern mindset. Don't accept it as valid if you don't want, but no need to attack me for presenting it.
Sorry, man, I just didn't understand your point. I'm not sure you really clarified it any better there, either. All fans are passionate about their teams. Kind of by definition. I live in New England. I'll put our stingy and mean up against your midwestern stingy and mean any day of the week. But my neighbors, the cheap fucks, somehow keep their "big market" Patriots rolling in the dough.
Let me see if some facts help clarify: the median income in Green Bay is $38,000, and there are very, very few jobs over $100k here. Only 14% in Brown county are college graduates (the US average is like 33%). We don't have toll roads, you can get an hour on a parking meter for a quarter, and the average house price is under $140k. Most people are of German nad Scandanavian ancestry in Wisconsin, both are known for frugality. None of those things are probably true in PatsieLand. All of this is hopefully hints that there is a very different culture here than on the coasts. I have friends who moved here from Maryland, NY, MA etc, and they all notice this, as do friends who move there form here. It's like England and France.
The area the Patriots draw from is one of the most affluent in the country, including Eastern Massachusetts, Connecticut minus the ultra-wealthy NY suburbs, Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Vermont. Having exclusivity in most of 5 states is a powerful economic force for any team to draw upon. If you look at per capita income the 5 states are all at or above the median. The Giants and the Jets have it better, but they also split the pot between them. When the Patriots do very well their influence spreads way south into what would usually be Jets turf. My older nephew in Fairfield county is a Pat's fan and so are all his friends. There are Jets fans there also but way fewer than the Pats and Fairfield county is an hours drive out of New York and 3 hours from Boston.
Okay, you people are poor and cheap. We're just cheap. Although plenty of northern New England is pretty fucking poor if you ask me. Notice Bradway excluded the entire state of Maine. I'm pretty sure the northern counties of Vermont and New Hampshire wouldn't remind him much of New London. Really, what it boils down to is that its something of a miracle, or at least an historical anomaly, that the Packers didn't go the way of the Decatur Staleys two generations ago. The wide regional appeal has be some part of it, and that's what needs to be amplified. Didn't the Packers play some games in Milwaukee every year? Why did that stop?
Actually, with the Bears to the south and the Vikes to the west, the regional thing probably isn't there for you, either. Soccer really isn't so bad.
Bingo. You get it. Or rather you don't, as that was obviously meant sarcastically, even though it's true. Yes, it is an historical anomaly that there is an NFL franchise in Green Bay. Err ... isn't this rather obvious? Not only is it an oddity that it is in a city with a population of 100,000, and no larger city within 200 miles, but it also is a nonprofit public corporation, which requires special exemption clauses in NFL ownership rules to legitimize its legal existence.
