You don't understand! I coulda had class! I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it. It was you, Charley. I love old avatars.
Love the optimism and i agree it will be very exciting. But one thing. Mac has to go with Bowles for me. Clean sweep. New everyone please. Start again. I know he got Darnold but the rest of his work leaves a lot to be desired for me. As for the rest i totally agree. Add some sack masters off the edge and give Darnold a pocket and i think the rest is there. Just needs a completely new offensive package for Darnold to learn for next year. Roll on next year. How sad it's November and i'm thinking that, again.
No we're not. Not in any way whatsoever. The Rams and Chiefs coming off last season we're an offseason away. Two playoff teams that added crucial pieces to elevate themselves and became perennial contenders for the next 5 years and beyond. The Jets aren't even close to perennially contending. Having a boatload of money in FA is only one part of it. Knowing how to spend it wisely is a completely different topic. Having a GM who couldn't draft his way out of a paper bag is a huge issue that needs to be addressed with his pink slip at the end of this season. Same goes for the HC. This team is so bereft of talent that it will take 2-3 years of shrewd FA moves and much better drafting to even be in the discussion of a perennial contender. A system needs to be implemented and that system needs to be developed and executed on. This doesn't happen with one offseason and a $100M shopping spree. It's a philosophy that needs to be implemented from the top on down and this franchise isn't anywhere close to that at this point.
Anything below playoffs & an offense that actually scores points doesnt interest me. I have zero faith in ownership,the players on down. Its as bleak as ever.Let them prove its diffefent cause odds are its the same old shit including fans that think the only thing that needs fixing is the OL.How are those “4 #2 receivers” we supposively had working out?
At this point we're playing so badly that I don't see any number of roster moves helping this team. What we need a new coach in the worst way as the team just looks straight up lost. Once we have someone who knows what they're doing and what it takes to win, then I think the pieces will fall into place.
A lot of decisions need to go right this off season starting with the coach. And it will probably take 2 years for the Jets to get to where they want to be . But you make good points. If Darnold is who he’s supposed to be - a franchise QB - the Jets should be OK once they add the pieces he needs.
It's borderline impossible to evaluate the players on this team. Bowles, Rodgers, and Bates are like children who haven't yet learned a square peg can't fit in a round hole. They have no idea how to coach a damn team.
I've listed the edge rushers who will possibly be FAs in several different threads. I suggest doing some research. I'm not picking on you, however, as I see posters all the time either saying that no one good at a certain position will be available in FA or speak as if there will be lots of FAs available at our positions of need, and we can just sign them and be competitive next season, and it's obvious they have not looked at lists of players who will become FAs if they don't re-sign with their present teams. There are a number of sites one can go to find out who the possible FAs for each season are. The best (most accurate and easiest to find) is Spotrac https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/ Their list can be sorted by position. Here are the edge rushers who potentially will become FAs: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/edge/ One can also go to https://overthecap.com/ which has very accurate salary cap information for each team for the current season and following 4 seasons, and also shows the players that will become FAs, but of course, that is more labor intensive as one can only see one team at a time.
The Jets are close to contention in the sense that they have a QB making peanuts. Thats always step one in making a nice run. If Sam takes a big jump in the next few seasons, and plays like a top 8-12 QB, the free agents brought in all work out, and some draft picks work out, they can definitely be a contender by 2020. Having said all that, I'm not banking on all those "if's" becoming realities.
New system with no guarantee it will be any better than the old system. Sam has yet to prove he is capable of being an elite QB. FA i Very optimistic post. Sam Darnold hasn't proven that he's a competent journeyman let alone a franchise quality QB. There is no proven great HC/OC combination in the future. Free agency as a way to build a team is highly over rated. It's a good way to fill a piece or two with a team that's ready. It rarely works for filling multiple positions. Jax came close and they are already going down the drain after 1 year. The thing the Jets have going for them is Tom Brady is near done. We likely won't have a 12 to 14 win team in our division going forward. I suspect even without Brady the Pats with BB will retool before we do. There is no indication that this organization is capable of hiring a great head coach or OC. There is no indication that Sam Darnold is going to be a great Quarterback at the NFL level. He didn't even prove it at the college level. There is reason to be optimistic. BB might die or get permission to leave to coach the Giants. The Johnson family might hit the power ball lottery twice and we hire the next great Head Coach. Sam Darnold may actually become an elite NFL QB. We actually hit on 5 draft picks next year who all start and dominate from year 1. We overpay for 2 free agents who actually perform at the same level they did when they were underpaid. Food for thought. One of the most sought out Head coaches last year was Pat Shurmar. At least two other teams were left at the alter. He is the offensive minded Head coach that was going to turn the Giants around.
Not close to contention at all, let alone perennial. It's a ridiculous hyperbole to suggest a team that has only won 5 of their last 22 games is close to contention. I know we live in an era where ridiculous, reality tv style hyperbole is more praised that actual results or evidence, but we should still try not to lose our heads.
I agree with everything you said, except the assessment of Darnold. I believe he HAS shown flashes of what he can become. Will he? That depends heavily first on him staying healthy, then next on who the CS is, then will they surround him with skill players? All of those things are bigger questions than whether he has the ability to be a SB QB.
Good and Bad points here but its refreshing to be a bit of a sunnysider in our Darkest Hour We have potential..thats it, forever.... Potentially hiring an Offensive Coach, potentially getting a GM like Dorsey, potentially having a third owner like Bezos come in (the Giants have Maras/Tisch) Most posters are getting on your timeline which is clearly not one Offseason to greatness lol Perhaps a third of our dilemma gets solved with a better Coach but ownership is arrogant and clueless. If they are smart, when they go through the next Coach search they get a much better set of advisers besides this GM and the crew that anointed him (Casserly/Wolf)
I'm not down on Sam at all. He has shown flashes. Sanchez showed flashes. Matt Robinson Showed flashes. Rosen has shown flashes. Allen has shown flashes. He's also sucked a lot. There's a big difference between flashes and consistently good. There's a difference between consistently good and top 15 NFL starter... Nick Mullens is showing flashes.
I never saw Sanchez nor Robinson show the "flashes" that Sam has. Sure, he may never reach his potential, as I said, but if he does, he could be the best QB the Jets have had since Namath.
Quick turnarounds can happen in the NFL. But this team needs help at OL, Edge, RB, and WR. The impact positions need more talent across the board, other than QB. Macc or whomever our GM is next offseason has his work cut out for him. Realistically, I see the OL and Edge getting significant upgrades.
They arent gonna be able to rebuild a whole O in an offseason to your point.But i think they can address Edge/RB in a big way in FA. There will be edges available & i think rightly or wrongly theyll sign Bell.Theyll have funds even after that to target playmakers,OL or depth. Then they can go into the draft w an eye on help for Darnold upfront & on the boundary. Expecting a full turnaround in one offseason is unrealistic..but they can def improve a full letter grade w an arrow pointing up into 2020 very easily.
