Welcome to the Jets Michael Carter, RB, UNC (4th Rnd)

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I always seen it that way until i read something here that said he was a gase favorite and then it made sense
     
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    Kryoptix Well-Known Member

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    Interesting take coming from Saleh in his presser.

    He mentioned that by trading up to 14, they pretty much sacrificed the chace to draft Michael Carter in the 3rd round which they wanted to do. They said they were pleasantly surprised he was available in the 4th round.

    That's the beauty of the draft, same with Elijah Moore which seem to have been their target at 23 if no AVT, sometime the players you target fall into your lap.

    I think AVT might also have fallen into their lap too but in the end they got the 4 players they targeted/coveted in Wilson, AVT, Moore and Carter.
     
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  3. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    seems like things just really worked out well for the jets in general. they got all the top offensive players they wanted (wilson, AVT, moore, carter) with their 1st 4 picks and then stocked up on players to mold for defense
     
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  4. Jason MacIsaac

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    I believe there was a report from a team that said they would have taken AVT before Jets 23rd pick. In the end, here is how I would have seen the draft going.

    23.) Elijah Moore
    34.) Alex Leatherwood (Vegas takes AVT)
    66.) Michael Carter/Joseph Ossai
    86.) Michael Carter/Ronnie Perkins
     
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  5. NCJetsfan

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    A bulldozer isn't part of the Jets' new scheme.
     
  6. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    A running back that breaks tackles fits every team's scheme
     
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    AVT wouldn't have fallen. The #22 team said that they would have taken him, and I think the Raiders would have as well.
     
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  8. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Always thought Adams could become something in this league. I would like to see him get more action
     
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  9. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    That's a dumb statement and not true.
     
  10. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    haha :D:D how do you figure?
     
  11. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    That is patently false. Not in 2021 at least.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

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    Because CSs have scheme fits in mind. That mindset that players can fit any scheme has never been true, and it's less true today than it ever was. This is the day of specialization. This scheme wants RBs who are fast, make one cut and go. This isn't a power, ground and pound-type scheme. Carter can break some tackles and so can Adams, but they have speed. Bulldozers do not fit our scheme.
     
  13. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Is 2021 going to be different than 2020?

    Most rushing yards in the NFL - after contact 2020:
    1. Derrick Henry
    2. Dalvin Cook
    3. James Robinson
    4. Aaron Jones
    5. David Montgomery

    Most Rushing yards in the NFL 2020:

    1. Derrick Henry
    2. Dalvin Cook
    3. Jonathan Taylor
    4. Aaron Jones
    5. James Robinson

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/rushing_advanced.htm
     
  14. Jason MacIsaac

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    I know it isn't necessarily part of the scheme but it is always good to have in the red zone or short yardage situations.
     
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    Did any of those teams run an outside zone scheme? Trust me, I would have loved nothing more than to be in a position to draft someone like Najee Harris and let him be a star but that's now how this offense rolls.
     
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    First off: Mike Lafleur has never been an offensive coordinator before. So you really dont have a great idea what his scheme actually is. By all accounts he wants to run a Shanahan style zone running scheme...

    A zone running scheme is perfect for a running back that can break tackles as it often has the running back making their own reads and can be slow developing in the backfield (where a running back is often required to avoid or break tackles)

    LaFleur's brother, whom I would presume has a similar scheme/philosophy has made a superstar out of Aaron Jones, one of the best RBs at breaking tackles in the league
     
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    There's a difference between players who can break tackles and a "bulldozer." I was responding to the term "bulldozer" which implies a slower, bigger, heavier, stronger RB who powers through people rather than avoiding/eluding would-be tacklers.
     
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    I agree, I just don't think the Jets will go that way. SF didn't, and I don't think LaFleur will with us either. They count on speed, elusiveness, and misdirection.
     
  19. BrowningNagle

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    yes. Green Bay, Minnesota and Chicago are all zone rushing heavy. Minnesota's OC, Gary Kubiak, 20+ years in the Shanahan designed zone rushing attack
     
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    The Titans do although it looks slightly different because of Henry's style, it's the bread and butter of both the Packers and Vikings schemes. Not sure about the Bears and Jaguars.
     

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