We knew from the start Sanchez doesn't have a gun. You know who has the strongest arm on the Patriots? Andrew Walter. I wish he was starting instead of Brady.
I think Clemens has the experience, and is good enough to get it done. Give him a chance. Face it, we have Sanchez for awhile, he isn't going anywhere! So how about we let Clemens play, hope he turns out to be a stunning surprise, and then get some nice trade value out of him. That would be my thinking anyway. Sanchez will be there, let him develop, I don't want to hender his football growth by throwing him out there premature.
The way i see it is like this despite if he gets outplayed in practice as long as he outplays Clemens in pre-season in the actual games thats all that matters in the end.
Preseason? How about, as long as he plays well in the regular season, that is all you care about. Screw preseason, bro. These games don't matter one bit, it is the regular season I'm concerned with. If he is getting smoked by our first team defense in practice, what makes you so sure he will be consitent in the regular season?
Here is one thing about Clemens we should all note. Talent wise he is not as good as Sanchez. He's just not. The more talented of the two players should play, and that player is Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez will have his hiccups like all rookie QB's do. But, a rookie Sanchez is still better than a 4 year, constant QB competition losing, bring in new people so we don't have to play him, 8 game QB with more picks than a 70's blaxpolitation movie. I mean the guy came from OREGON...freakin Oregon! Who's only QB to EVER come to the NFL and throw more Touchdowns than interceptions was DAN FOUTS! Just go with Sanchez please for better or worse.
Dude.. Year one - Rookie, obviously he is going to sit behind CP. Year two - CP and KC did have a "supposed" QB competition, CP was still considered a very capable starter, so obviously CP had the edge during the entire camp. The injury recovery went well, and played nothing like they thought he would coming off that injury. CP gets injured, and Clemens takes over. Only, he was set up to fail in this scenario because of that attrocious line he was behind. Year three - Brett Favre. KC only has 6 more INT's then TD's. Hardly a fair comparison. Yes, let's go with the guy who apparently has more "talent". We can clearly base this off of one (good) completion in a preseason game. You sold me, where can I sign up for this bandwagon?
I don't know how the numbers add up either way, but its the impression I get from following the different reporters blogs and such. A, Clemens doesn't seem to put up as many flat-out stinkers as Sanchez does, like 2-for-10 days. And B, I haven't noticed Clemens throwing picks against the #2s. When I read, Clemens was pressured (or not) and picked off over the middle by Rhodes or Bart Scott, I get that, because our defense is beastly. When I read, Sanchez was picked off by some B-squad shlub, that worries me a little more. And I don't recall once seeing that Clemens had a bad day facing off against the B squad (I'm sure it has happened at some point, but by and large, Clemens' lowpoints have come against the A-squad). But more significant than any of that, for me at least, is the fact that theres not much reason to rush Sanchez in, and theres something dumb about having Clemens in here for four or five years and never having given him a legit chance to be the starter. By all accounts he knows the offense inside and out, his teammates like him, hes got a pretty good skillset, theres no reason to push a rookie into the lineup just to avoid giving him a shot. If he sucks, no big loss, put in Sanchez after a couple weeks to see if he can make something happen. It doesn't work as well the other way around, once they give the ball to Sanchez, he'd have to suck real, real bad, and probably for more than one season, before he'd land on the bench.
This just reeks of overkill. Anybody whos played a sport will know. Sometimes you just have to walk away, get your head together and come back and start over. Seems like the competition between them is really forcing them into errors. One thing for sure, The Jets will benefit.
Nah thats not what i meant i mean if he keeps playing well in pre-season games against actual opponents then in practice he should get the upper hand but theres no doubt the regular season is whats the most important but a starter has to be decided before the regular season.
What exactly do you base this statement on? Better arm? quicker release? Over all intelligence? 40 time? Visson? Dan Fouts is in the HOF by the way. Sanchez was brought in becuase Ryan loves him. If Ryan is wrong he likely will be gone in 3 years and we start over. Sanchez will start when he's ready. I don't think either one of these guys struggeling in practice means much. At some point it will but not yet.
well in a way it is.... For the whole first part of camp Sanchez was throwing against the second stringers. Now since he moved up to our top of the line defense, he is struggling, this shouldnt surprise anybody. Also it also is prudent to point out its why KC has thrown so many INT's early in camp and has suddenly stopped throwing them since he started playing with the second team, the #2's are weaker than our #1's.
i dont understand why so many posters want to throw sanchez in the fire right from the begining. i am all for the jets to start Clemens, and have Sanchez learn With the clip board for at least a year. however, if Clemens is sucking it up, throw Sanchez in. History shows that Qb's have a more succesful year sitting for a year rather than just starting outright. In addition i feel like most people are just looking at the good things that sanchez is doing while ignoring the mistakes... while they are pointing out some mistakes from clemens.
Given the lack of depth behind some quality people in the secondary, and the overall mediocre talent of the Jets receivers, it's a bigger drop off from first team to second in the backfield than at wideout. From this it would follow that the same qb would have better matchups with the second team than the first. Something to keep in mind when assessing the relative performances of Clemens and Sanchez with the first and second teams.
Actually, I think Sanchez was brought in because Schotty loves him. Ryan pretty much admitted that after the draft. That's probably reflected in the play selection that was given to the QBs in the first preseason game, too.
Translation version 1 - Sanchez is going to be a bust! Translation version 2 - Sanchez is improving quite a bit and should have a stellar season Translation 3 - You idiots on internet message boards need to get a life!
I would rather have Sanchez play. In terms of real game experience, Clemens is hardly more than a rookie anyway. If we're going to have a rookie be our starter, then I'd rather have the one who's supposed to be the future QB of the team out there. He may suck in Year 1, but at least he'll get the feel of how the NFL is instead of watching every week.
