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  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Parity scheduling makes the bad teams at this point so much worse than the bad teams 40 years ago.
     
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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    In the 31 years since SB III and Hess selling the team, they made the playoffs 7 times. Hess was spectacular.
     
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    Linebacker712 Well-Known Member

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    This fanbase can't be pleased. If Woody does nothing about bad performance, people complain that he doesn't care and he's fiddling while Rome burns. If he steps in and tries to fix a situation, people complain that he's meddling and needs to stay out of football decisions.
     
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    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    nope

    no confusion here

    woody should STAY THE FUCK OUT OF ANY football decisions

    period

    he’s a fucking clueless idiot who has no business making ANY football decisions

    he’s proven that time and time again
     
  5. Ralebird

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    I stated in another thread last week that you cannot be scapegoated for those things you are responsible for. LaFleur, more than anyone connected to the team, was responsible for putting points on the scoreboard. He failed. He got fired. He was in over his head. That's not scapegoating.
     
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    I haven't missed anything. The problem with common sense is that it's not common enough. You can have the opinion that Johnson influenced the decision; he should influence decisions of this importance - that doesn't mean he was solely responsible for it or that indicates he was meddling. It's his business to run and, as others have said, if LaFleur had not been released that would have shown failure on the part of Saleh and Douglas. But it seems like you long ago made up your mind and slammed it shut. Oh, well.

    BTW, what is it in your mind that we are absolving Johnson of? If you're pissed off that LaFleur is gone that would require more explanation; it's not as if he was effective the last two seasons; nothing indicates that would change with MLF on the scene.
     
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    And yet it's far more likely the OC hire is going be the exact opposite of this...
     
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    Woody's first decade was the result of Hess hiring Parcells. Once the Parcells guys left and Woody's guys took over, the result was the mess of the last decade.
     
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    Geez, it's real clear, regardless of what decisions he makes that some, or many, may disagree with, a guy who owns a business can never be "out of his lane" regarding making important decisions about that business. If you think he's made bad decisions, they're subject to criticism like the Edsel and New Coke. What exactly do you recommend to get the Jets on the right path, and who, other than Johnson, should make the decisions involved in righting the ship?

    Personally, I believe Johnson's biggest fault is being too complacent and not getting more involved with other NFL owners and executives which would give him a better insight into how successful teams operate. Every time he changes important people in football operations he is criticized, even if it's agreed that the move is necessary. He gets criticized for picking people to run the team, criticized for hiring NFL veterans to advise him on replacing people and criticized for hiring a professional management organization for doing it - what's left?

    For years many here have promoted the idea of putting a guy in place to be director of football operations, just like Elhai is in charge of everything else; I still agree with that.

    What I'll never agree with is raising someone's opinion to a higher level of knowledge, experience or respectability simply because they post it on a blog; I doubt I'll ever see how that serves to validate a post and make it more important that yours or mine. If that's a "boomer mentality," I'll wear it proudly.
     
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