Was Saleh the right hire??

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  1. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I thought he was, but he's not. I'd take Rex back in a heartbeat.
     
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  2. NYJFOREVER

    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what they do to be honest. If this one doesn’t work I might throw in the towel. It’s hard to find successful NFL coaches, teams don’t just let them go.

    Definitely think the Jets should have a President of Football Ops.
     
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  3. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Most do. When you have to sign a bunch of starters off other teams cast offs you’re not going to get much roi. Especially when you’re trying to solve the qb question at the same time.
     
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  4. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Maybe if we stop shopping at Dollar General for our FA's, we might get one that's a difference maker..
     
  5. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Every head coach available will be one that was fired for sucking at his last place. Bill parcels’ don’t happen every year.
     
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    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Sure doesn't look like he was the right hire. We get blown out in most of our losses.
     
  7. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    The idea is to hit on draft picks. Remember the eagles and the dream team? You don’t buy championships in the nfl.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Jim Harbaugh seems like he can certainly be had if Woody opens the checkbook. Once they lose 41-17 to Ohio State I’m sure he’ll be available.
     
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  9. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    But you can buy relevancy. We're not talking Leveon Bell either. We may have to overpay for a quality A-list FA but that's just the way it is. Comes with the territory of being a second class organization trying to make the jump. Going the bargain basement route just to save a few cap bucks has gotten us nowhere.
     
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    All well and good. Some HC's actually learn their hard lessons by being fired. At least they know how to handle personnel and more importantly, they'll have gravitas. The players will look at the boss and not see a guy learning how to be the boss. They'll see a guy that's done it before and hopefully was good at it. That established HC will also bring with him assistants who also have prior experience. No more situations like this one where EVERYBODY is learning their jobs on the fly.
     
  11. AndyDrums

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    You can say it's a lack of talent all day long, but is Mac Jones now Aaron Rodgers? Is he surrounded with the Bills level of talent? The average fan cannot name 3 players on NE's O or D, yet there they are basically winning every game now, and are probably headed to the playoffs yet again, all with a rookie QB I might add. Today they physically beat the $hit out of the Browns. They are always good for a reason. Its the coaching. Its the system. Its the FO. The NFL is not the NBA where you need that 1 superstar to be competitive as us Knicks fans are sadly realizing. In the NFL, the players are interchangeable. IMHO, (and I think I know a little on the subject having watched the NFL and Jets for 50+ years) this organization has no idea WTF it is doing. I have said this since week 1, they look the same as they did throughout the Bowles regime, and the Gase regime. I see no difference in any of it, in fact, this team looks worse and rivals Richie the K and the 1996 1-15 team for worst Jet team in their history! They are giving up 45+ points a game, these games are over before the end of Q1 and as it has been over the last 10 years, we have no chance to win most weeks. Thank the lord for the RZ Channel and the gym being open on Sunday LOL
     
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  12. WoodyHarrelson

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    All of the above. At the end of the day, you need to put talent out there. He can’t do it at the right price. He needs to go early next year if it’s a slow start.
     
  13. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Douglas made a big time run at thuney, he chose the chiefs. It takes two to agree to a deal. And overpaying isn’t going to help, it lessens the roi and is exactly the cycle o was describing. Spend to get kinda good and then flameout. Me personally, I’m done with that cycle. It hasn’t worked. Maybe a couple of years of top 5 picks is the better way to go.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    The only exception and it comes along how often? Unfortunately for the fire everyone crowd I doubt we’re in the coaching market this year.
    I’m saddened a bit by this . Harbaugh v cimini would be phenomenal
     
  15. JetsUK

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    not when they keep spending them on QB prospects that don't work
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

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    It doesn’t matter what mediocre coordinator we have as a head coach at the time. If Harbaugh is available you go for it.

    Sort of like when you have a TV that works but you get your balls blown off by a Black Friday deal. It usually isn’t a huge upgrade but man is it fun at first.
     
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    It would never happen but they should bring him back as DC…..the 45 points allowed every week stops.

    And I’ve mentioned this in other posts but the defense needs a major infusion of talent. FA and especially this draft needs to be tilted towards the defense. No pass rush - especially from the outside. No fast LBs - certainly no LBs that can cover. Safeties? No presence at all in the back middle and that doesn’t help the young group of CBs. A team can’t just trot out a stout interior DL and suggest go ahead and run up the middle on us … I figure another 4 maybe even 5 impact players are needed on this defense. It’s not even like the defense needs to be torn down….it needs to be built up.
     
  18. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If the organization is a talented, winning organization they can hire first time HC's and unless the guy is a total jerkoff they stay good.

    The Jets are an untalented bunch of losers top to bottom. Hiring a first time HC is just like putting a rookie QB on the field - a recipe for disaster.

    Note that when the Jets did this with Edwards, Mangini and Rex they were building off of Parcells talent base and sequentially saw that base drop regime to regime. When Rex came in they melded 3 decent to good vets from the Ravens into the defense, one at each layer, to help teach Rex's defense to what was still a fairly talented defensive unit. However the drafts just got worse and worse and when it all bottomed out in 2012 there was no return to contention possible. We've been stuck there ever since.

    Hiring a CEO HC/football Czar to fix things is not a bad idea but they better be a successful leader and proven so before they come here or we will just ruin them also.
     
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  19. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    The next 2 years won’t be qb picks. The time line is set up for a 3 year trial,2 if it goes horribly bad next year , to try to build around a high draft pick.
     
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  20. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    You stay the course and see it through. There’s only so much recycling coaches and trying to find the next in thing can do. If you feel this team is moreso the team that upset bengals and titans then you see the upside and promise. If you think it’s the team that got it’s defense destroyed then changes have to be made. I truly feel Saleh needs to take control of the defense and instill more his knowledge there while there’s a ton of talent that’s devoid on the defensive side, hes needed there.

    Jets have relative inexperience or just bad players everywhere besides the DLine. The corners are just young, so you’re trying to find the right guys there. Hall is good, MC is good. Dunn was the reason the Jets defense got their second pick today when Hall missed a play or two. Echols just doesn’t do it for me at the other corner. The safeties are just a step late to everything it seems. At LB, CJ is fine but the rest are subpar…Davis does nothing for me. Quincy is okay but he gets eaten up a bit by bigger guys but he’s better then Jarrad. In this defense having a safety to help matters and none of the safeties are that type of run support like Adams would be in this system.
     
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