Kens heart was ripped from his chest by his OL. It got so bad that on the first sight of a DL, Kenny would just fall into the fetal position and start to whimper. Poor guy. He deserved better.
he also had no help from his teammates, he had no time, becht had a couple of false starts, we couldn't run the ball, Coles dropped a TD, Coles had a big penalty on a long play, Chrebet dropped a big 1st down. Chad wasn't great but if his teammates played reasonably well we would have had a much better chance to win and if it was a foreshadowing why did he have a good 2004? He was on his way to a great 2004 until he got hurt but still had a good yar despite the injury.
I think the problem cut both ways. Yes, the Jets OL in the mid/late 80s was fair to middling, but O'Brien was also terrible in the pocket, holding onto the ball forever, getting that deer-in-the-headlights look after three seconds. When he threw, he was pinpoint, but he wasn't going to make Richard Todd's mistake of just heaving the ball in the air to avoid a sack, and thus the battered spouse syndrome you speak of began.
Actually that game was the turning point cause Oak showed the rest of the league blitz/pressure him & he folds up as he cannot handle pressure in the pocket at all. Now that he will be really frighten of reinjury of the cuff the CS may want to design a "moving" pocket O for him so he will feel more comfortable then sitting in the pocket waiting for the eventual hit that may terminate his career
My gripe about Pennington is simple. He always seems to be hurt. Weather it's bad luck or something else; it doesn't matter. We need our starting players on the field and if they cannot be there consistently, they are of no use to us. It's like what happened to our (now ex) safety McGraw. When he was on the field he was great. Problem was that he would always be hurt so he was never on the field. Same deal. If Pennington cannot prove that he can remain on the field consistently, he's of no use to us. Now I'm willing to give him a chance to come back but if he cannot prove that he is beyond this injury bug. It's time for us to part ways.
wow! there is at least one other person here who can see the big picture without blinders on.:wink: last year, behind the same line, bolly ran better, avoided injury and threw better than noodle arm. plus, since he's not sucking up a large amount of cap money, he's not stopping the team from getting better talent. he doesn't force them to let other guys leave cause they don't have the cap money to keep them. think about guys who we let leave as free agents while noodle was eating up so much cap money.:sad:
Likely the best post of this whole thread. I wonder how many people on this board root for Chad more than the Jets. I also refuse to settle for mediocrity. 2-2 in the playoffs? How about hoping for a guy who goes 4-0 in the playoffs?
Chad deserves fan loyalty. He gave the Jets the single best season of any QB since Namath in 2002, and puts it all out there. I don't think he's physically capable anymore, but I'd be happy to be proved wrong. I wish we didn't sign him to that monster contract, but as long as he is signed, I want him to have another chance to put it out there, and I'm glad the team management agrees.
why stop there then.. If we are gonna aim high, I want a QB that will play for 10 years & go 3-0 in the playoffs every year..So lets hope for a QB that will be 30-0 in the playoffs for his career..
The whole Pennington thing.... it's hard to not like the guy. While so far, having been very injury prone, he is tough... he has the heart of a competitor, like when he went BACK in after Fiedler got hurt. That makes it hard, for me at least, to root against him, but the truth is, I wish he were not here. I just am not ready to watch him go down in pain again, and possibly water down Clemens' development in the process while we wait for him to get hurt again. I don't think this new offense will go deep often, but without having that threat to keep the defense honest, it's even easier to shut down the running game, and bring the safeties up on our offense. I'd be happier with either Ramsey OR Pennington as a gate keeper for Clemens, but not both. I just can't help but feel that this team will just tread water while Chad is here. I've had enough of an offense that can't throw deep, whether it's the QB, the O line or the WR's.
dude...its not baffling at all....NOONE HAS EVER COMEBACK FROM SUCH AN INJURY.....so unless you think chads gonna be the one to defy all the odds,he's done...listen to the doctors...read between the lines...listen to tangini....they expect him to be done....i dont have to be a doctor,i just have to listen to them on the radio...im not rooting for him to be done as you suggest a lot of jet fans are....but he is....let me ask you this...do you think rooting for him to get well is gonna do anything????psssst....hes done
now thats moronic...as is thinking a guy who is 2-2 in the playoffs is "all we can really hope for"...what a pathetic,loser mentality that is boy...you must be a democrat also..embarrassing
Actually, I was responding to someone specifically talking about the distance of his deep ball. And I'll take the word of doctors and professionals over your word. If he is truely done as you suggest, no way would he still be on the roster with a new regime in town. If he was really throwing floaters over the middle that your mother could pick off, he would have been out of the league years ago.
...I don't think he's lost every big game that he's ever played in, but if you believe that if a QB is not a winner because he doesn't win a Super Bowl is understandable, I don't agree with that, but that's me. I hope Chad can return to the level he was before the injuries, but who knows. I don't think that I drink any kind of 'Kool aid' other than the one that hopes the Jets can improve and within the near future get to, and win a Super Bowl. If Chad is the QB that can do it, so be it, if not, I hope the QB that can is currently on the roster...
