I think it's fair to say Pennington is a somewhat limited QB when healthy. On the other hand he brings a lot of good qualities to the table. He is accurate and pretty mistake free and he does bring real leadership and energy to the table. With a dominating defense and a very solid OL and running attack I think Pennington can win and win big. However in this day and age it's very tough to build a team that can dominate in the trenches through out the playoffs when facing similiarly tough teams, especially as you get deep into the playoffs. It is those situations where big play ability seperates winners from losers. I'm not convinced that if our running game is stoped against a good defensive team that Pennington is capable of making big plays down the field. If he doesn't have to he certainly can win.
Hooray for your rah-rah statement. Now we are sure just like you advocating of Herm that CP is also on the road to the junk pile
I don't disagree however the reality of the NFL today is there really is only a handful of QB's with the ability to do it all. Pennington may not be great but he is solid and in today's NFL that's better than most teams.
I hear Kerry Collins is available, and I know for a fact that he can chuck it deep with the best of them. Are you trying to say that he's an asset and not a liability? When will people realize that an average or slightly below average deep ball is adequate enough if you have great skills in accuracy, leadership, and decision making? There is so much more to the QB position than how far you can throw the ball. The bottom line is that he is a great QB and leader when healthy, and he makes our team a winner. If he has the right guys around him and he's healthy (something his doctor says is a definite possibility), there is no doubt in my mind that he can win a Superbowl.
No that is not what I am saying. I am saying he is a liability since the other side does not fear his deep ball so they stack the line the against us reducing our ability to move the ball forward. Certainly if he PROVES that he can trow the long ball 40/50 yards without it becoming a floater or tumbling over & over then he will become a asset to the O. However, until that point is reached & acknowledged by the rest of the league he is in MHO a negative to the NYJs
You say that the other side doesn't fear his deep ball, but IMO that is a baseless statement. Did you interview every defensive coordinator in the league and come to this conclusion? Believe me, if Coles runs a Go route at any point this season, the safety WILL help out in coverage whether it is Chad behind center or not. And when did Chad ever throw a floater or a ball tumbling end over end when he was healthy? And please do not reference last season's Week 2 Miami game because it was very clear he was NOT healthy and rushed back way too soon.
His deep ball did float and I'm not just talking about last season either. His best deep pass was the bomb out of the endzone during the Miami game. Other than that one, nobody is scared of Chad's deep game.
It appears to me that the polar opposites on this issue are the extremes between Chad as a person and Chad as a physical body. My guess would be that your view of Chad and his future depends on your view of football in general: 1) the team is a business, where players get plugged in and are expected to perform (and if they don't, get rid of the defective part and replace it) or 2) the team is a group of individuals, with problems like the rest of us, and we get to know them (more or less) through the media, and we have a natural concern for their well-being. As a certified kool-aid drinker, I fall into the second group. Football is just a game and nothing more. There are more important things in life than if my favorite teams win or lose; the game is merely a diversion to the crap that goes on in my day-to-day life. Peace.
Hey Champ. I agree with you that opposing defenses don't fear Chad's deep ball, and I also blame that on our previous CS. There are a bunch of QBs in the league who have skills similar to Pennington (ie Jake Delhomme), who utilized their receivers better to create a threat. Santana Moss could have been the threat for us that Steve Smith is for the Panthers, the difference is, the Panthers CS made it happen, the Jets did not. We have seen that Pennington is capable of airing it out. He threw that one beautiful bomb to Santana Moss that was right on the money... if we had seen that more often, then teams may have become afraid of our deep ball. Herm's philosophy did not involve a whole bunch of that, so that would be why teams never became afraid of it. If Tom Brady had been working under Herm, he'd probably be making a career out of dump passes and a conservative game plan. The game plan and offensive schemes are more important than the player executing them. You need a player that is capable of executing the scheme, definitely, but in Chad we have a QB who is capable of doing that. Now that we have Mangini in town, hopefully things get changed up and his/Schottenheimers scheme involve airing the ball out and making defenses afraid of our deep ball. We have fast receivers... why not?
You should ask the Chargers of 2004 whether they were scared of his deep ball in the playoffs. How about the first game in 2004 against the Bengals? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYtrJE94my0&search=vilma
My biggest concern is that Pennington returns - but his arm strength is still an issue. It's not that I would ever root against him - but if he does come back to play - he needs not only to regain his arm strength, but improve it - to help the Jets succeed. It was obvious before he got hurt that his arm strength was an issue. Teams caught on to his inability to get the ball downfield. So, if he can come back - he needs to come back even stronger than before to be successful.
All I can say to your eply is you didi not watch enough of CP then to see all those floaters. Itr has bbeen mentioned on ESPN as well. You do not have to interview DC iif you can see that the DLine is being stcked against us so they you have tp ask yourself why & that anser is the other teams D does not fear CP deep ball. You have seperate CPs goodness as a person & his productivity to the team. As a person he is a A1 as a player at best right now he is a C- sorry to say
I disagree, if he can get his arm strength back to where it was before the shoulder surgeries and stay healthy he can be successful. He will never have a stong arm but if it is healthy he has proven he can win with it.
Oh yeah, teams really caught on.... I believe the Jets started the season 5-0 in 2004, and much of that was due to Chad. He needs to come back even stronger than before to be successful? He looked pretty damn successful to me when he was healthy.
Yeah, I guess I missed "all those floaters" because I was too busy watching him win. And I don't really care what ESPN says, they are right as often as a weatherman... The other team's DL was stacked against us because we had the best rushing attack in the league. It would be idiotic to take men out of the box.
Everybody is entitled to there HO however in this case yours & mine are at oppoosite ends of the spectrum. Before closing think back to his performance in the Oak PO game when he folded under the pressure of the blitz. Guess you missed his 5 INTs as it was a loss that nite
why should anybody root for a guy whos never played a full season, has obvious weaknesses to his game, and gets hurt all the time?
parafly bought the new chad pennington cocksaddle KEEP RIDIN! we all love penny but this guy makes him seem like hes won us something.
