we all know what will really happen. Vick goes down hurt and Geno takes over. I stick with 4 turnovers by the QB
Honestly, I thought we would win last week easily and I was way off But I do believe if Vick started from week 1, we would not be sitting at 1-7 Its kind of sad that most fans knew Geno was garbage, yet the coaching staff continued to believe in him.
I feel you on that but coming in after 3 picks were thrown changes the dynamic of the game plan regardless. Those were 3 drives vick COULD'VE made something happen. He definitely gave a spark and actually moved the ball unlike Geno. I'd like to see vick come in and run his own show not clean up Geno's mess.
I want to see Vick prove that he's the veteran we need next year at QB. yes, we'll get a rookie, but I'd like that rookie to be able to sit a while, or have some basic line of quality to surpass in order to get the starting job early. Some more W's some more progress format he O weapons and O-line, and a short arm answer at QB, thats all we can ask for right now.
I see a lot of mentioning about tanking....the really sad part about that is let us just say we did tank and got the #1 or #2 pick in the draft. Does ANYONE really have any confidence that Idzik wouldn't fuck that pick up? Hell...I can see him choosing a kicker out of DIII...that's how jacked up his draft "picker" is.
Do you REEEAAALLLLYYY think he'd chose a kicker? no, he shoots for value with these picks, the most annoying he'd be with a number one overall pick is if he chose a LT rather than a QB, which isn't the worse thing in the world. Idzik isn't stupid, stubborn maybe, but not stupid.
On these board and others sometimes its hard to tell… Its like JI can do no right, he's made mistakes but sometimes I feel like his incompetence is grossly over exaggerated.
For me, Tony, the secondary is a gross failure. I can excuse just about everything else JI has done and chalk it to inexperience and/or trial and error. But the fact remains that this "tool" was going to go into the 2014 season with a journeyman, rookie and borderline 1st round bust as his STARTING unit. That shouldn't have been his backup unit...let alone starting. Insult to injury...literally, guys went down prior to the season starting and he did nothing. NOTHING. Completely blew off our own Cromartie...low balled others based on what "HE" thought their value was. Who the fuck is John Idzik to set someone's value...? If he had 10 years experience with a track record of success I would give him the benefit of the doubt. But, he was about to launch the 2014 campaign with Milliner, McDougal & Patterson as a starting unit. Yeah...not happening. If we have an O.K. to above average secondary we win at least half, if not more, of the games we lost. I firmly believe that.
the secondary was his biggest misstep, I've come to grips with WHY he handled it the way he did, but theres no denying the drawbacks. maybe the whole rookies and veterans duke it out for starting spot thing can work at guard, but CB needed something a bit more solid and tested after all. Strangely i think it worked so poorly that next year he's sure to be a lot more pragmatic and willing to play ball with CB free agents than this year, I mean he's saved the money for a reason right? and who was he gonna take that was save our ass at CB after the CB's got hurt? bailey? flowers who's already proved he can't play in rex's scheme?
Makes absolutely no sense for the Jets to start Vick this year. It is so predictable the Jets would wait until they are 1-7 to put in a veteran QB, when the season is over, and sit a young guy. Might as well start Geno and see if he gets any better. They did say today they still "dont know if he is the future." Well if you truly dont know, why not find out?
Personally I agree, but I also think that at this point Vick gives us the best chance to win next week. Rex and Idzik are both playing for their jobs so the benefits of playing Vick outweigh the costs, I think.
lets say vick goes 6-2 in his 8 games starting.. if he gets the go ahead. maybe we could get em for a 2 yr deal after that and go look for a young qb either around the league in or in the draft to learn the system. That would be a come up. Only knock on that i have is "the system"... Vick would have to learn it along with a young QB too if marty was to be replaced.
thats what I want to see. thats the ideal scenario. we talk about wanting Hoyer, but it'd be nice to have a cable short term solution already in our abode who can sign an extension without hitting free agency. I'm not holding my breath though, its just as likely he's barely suitable to do the job as he is good enough to keep the job next year.
I feel your pain and your logic if flawless. The problem is that Rex can't play Geno and then proceed to tell people with a straight face that he is doing everything in his power to help this team win. The players in the locker room want to win the games. They aren't idiots. They know who is better. Rex loses the locker room for good if he plays Geno this week. Several quotes from various Jets players since the game basically confirm this. Geno really hurt his stock with that performance on Sunday. But, the bolded is the pertinent issue here. Vick should have been given the starting job after the Lions game. We were only 1-3 at that point, and with a full week of practice with the ones, who knows how Vick plays in San Diego. (I personally don't think it would have changed the outcome, but that's not the point). Or, at the very latest, Vick should have been given the job heading into the Denver game at 1-4. Rex waited too long to bench Geno. He failed to hold the quarterback accountable and improve the most important position on the team when the season was still in the balance. He made the same mistake with Sanchez.
I saw an interview where Mike said he was playing like the 24 year old Mike Vick and it was the reason for all of the turnovers. And there were a lot of them (I think the Jets recovered 2 fumbles if not it would have been an even worse disaster). The thing is can he survive like this. The guy is injury prone and has fumbleitis. But he in addition to his speed and running ability has a great arm. Stay in the pocket for Christ sakes. Unlike Geno he can read a blitz. Potentially he can do good things
Vick won't matter he can be a turnover machine too. The WR's suck and the Oline sucks. Let't not win games now we need to suck for the DUCK or Famous Jameis.
