Sucks CJ Mosley was picked right before us in 2014. That man has been a beast this year at the ILB position.
Just throwing this out there: If the QBs and WR Cooper are gone then I wouldn't mind if they focused on overhauling the talent on the OL: Brandon Scherff (OT, Iowa) in the 1st and if available, A.J. Cann (OG, So. Carolina) at the top of the 2nd round while signing 49'er free agent OG Mike Iupati. What about Giacomini? Well, the departed Austin Howard's cap charge with the Oakland Raiders is $8 million; Giacomini's charge is $2.625 million -- a huge savings for the Jets (cap experts could weigh in on that better than I). Austin's guarantee is for 7.9M and Giocomini's for 7M. Anyway, for 2015 you could conceivably have a revamped OL line consisting of: LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson LG:Mike Iupati C: Nick Mangold RG: A.J. Cann RT: Brandon Scherff Hell, let's blow the whole thing up and wing it (flamming will be tolerated but graded): New GM hires new head coach, then signs Darrelle Revis to pair with the returning Milliner and McDougle at CB, drafts Kurtis Drummond (FS, Michigan St.) in the 3rd round to pair with Pryor (SS), and then signs a young vet QB by the name of Mark Sanchez to game manage behind a revamped, improved OL (no Colon/Winters), a stable of solid RBs in Ivory, Johnson & Powell, and an improved-over-2012 WR core of Decker, and….um,…..er, can they re-structure Harvin's numbers? Hmmm, ,maybe I should re-think that last part…
The issue hasn't been with going defense, the issue is that we draft crappy players. If Wilson and Milliner developed into stars we'd be looking pretty good right now.
This. I've been one of the primary advocates for a stud pass rusher on Jets boards for years, and it's still a glaring need, but enough is enough. The offense will never get better if they don't start spending some top picks on it. If Mariota and Cooper are gone, then if at all possible, the Jets should trade down, getting the best deal they can, and look to take the best offensive players they can find. Even though CB is probably a need, I'm not for spending yet another 1st round pick on a CB. Surely, there will be some other topflight WRs or OL in the middle or lower part of the 1st round that will be the BPA. Garnering another 3rd or 2nd round pick will enable them to address the offense even more significantly, or perhaps add a CB or pass rusher, but I want the #1 going on an offensive player, preferably a QB or WR.
No, the issue has been going defense. This offense sucks and cant score. No stud on defense is going to change that. This team hasnt drafted a play maker on offense since Santana Moss and even that is somewhat debatable. If a defensive player is drafted once again with the first pick for us, this fan base is going to be in a frenzy.
I think we can all agree that the defensive line is great and the secondary is horrible. What about the linebackers though? They seem to be doing alright but no one is comparing them to the 1985 Bears. Harris leads the team in tackles but is a liability in coverage (also a free agent). Demario Davis looks like he could be a core player to build around. Quinton Coples may be playing out of position with only three sacks this season. Calvin Pace has been solid but is like 100 years old and only has four sacks this season. Jason Babin has been a nice addition with two sacks this year but is also about 100 year old. Even if we bring Harris back (30 years old) I think we need to add some talent, youth, and speed to this unit.
How come no love for Jameis? Call me crazy but i think winston is the perfect fit for new york, with how he is able to handle all the criticism and still perform at a high level on the field. Coming to the jets, the media speculation wouldn't be far from what he is accustomed to. He is also the more pro ready QB with the offense in FSU obviously, but what really sold me was seeing him pumping up and rallying his teamates on the sidelines when they were down and leading them to the double you. He is a true leader and a WINNER, something new york has been lacking for a while now. This college playoff thing is gonna show everybody just how clutch he is. With that being said if he is available i would pull the trigger without a doubt. If him, the duck and coop are off the board then its OT all the way I cant be the only one who who sees the undoubtable talent of winston??
Just because our O is in major need of an upgrade don't for a second disregard the gaping holes for quality players in defense. Pace is basically a situation player at best and Harris is not near the player he once was. We desperately need to upgrade the LB position as well as the secondary. So, if we can not justify the early pick on offense, ie no QB or top WR or even OT on the board then go for a stud OLB, or free safety, or ILB. I want the absolute BPA in area of need. I do not want a freaking project player with the first three or four picks or I will puke.
While a franchise QB can make an avg WR look like Jerry Rice, a dominant O-line can make an avg QB look like Willie Joe Namath. If you can grab a sure fire franchise QB, by all means do it. But if you can't, then go dominant O-Line that will make your avg QB look fantastic. Franchise QBs are so elusive it may actually be easier to acquire 5 franchise offensive lineman than 1 franchise QB.
Or, we could make sure that those guys are not off the board by a) sucking (which doesn't seem to be too hard, really) and b) trading up to get the guy we need if the other teams suck more.
There are more franchise QBs than franchise OLs in the NFL today. I can't think of a line outside of Dallas that fits your description. There are a minimum of six (Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Luck) slam-dunk franchise QBs in the NFL today, and if you include second-tier QBs that number goes into the double digits. Plus, OLs come and they go, year to year. And a really dominant OL is likely to cost _more_ than a franchise QB in a couple of years. Namath would (sadly) have been an above average QB in the NFL today, not great. Too many picks, too little efficiency. The game has changed; today, an average QB behind a great line looks like Jason Campbell or Brian Hoyer - destined for the waiver wire.
If Mariota isn't there, trade down and get picks like Parcells in 1997--the jets have PLENTY of needs!
Yep. As long as there is a to notch personnel guy in house, anyway. If we go into 2015 with IDK as GM, I'd prefer BPA. He's bad at finding anything in the 2-7 range, or even outside the top 10.
The guy doesnt throw the ball from the pocket. His numbers are great but how that translates to the NFL is big question mark. Winston is the better NFL prospect, unfortunately he's just an idiot. Your suppose to build your offense around a QB's strengths, I fear that with Mariota he's going to be drafted and asked to be a totally different player. The team that drafts him needs to make what he does well fit in the NFL, thats why that player is rated so high to begin with, and probably why you took him. To many teams like to pick a player and then try to change everything about him and make him fit what they want to do. Even with things like footwork, mechanics, etc. You have to let that QB do what got him to the NFL.
If had Winston had brains off the field, I believe he'd be the undisputed #1 overall pick. As a pro prospect, Winston is indeed better than Mariota.
I see what you are saying but we would still have the same embarrassing offense. Can't win if you cant score.
This only works up to a point though. As we've seen with Sanchez in 09/10, Alex Smith in KC, Romo in Dallas, no matter how good the O-Line or team is, there will still come a time when the QB needs to carry the team, and a bad-to-average NFL QB cannot do that. That's why ultimately, drafting a QB is much more important if you want to contend for the whole thing and not just the playoffs.
