Maybe we trade picks with the niners, slide to 6th, still have our choice of some studs and pick up a draft pick or a player to plug a depth hole. That'd be nice.
Was watching NFL Access with DeAngelo Hall DeAngelo spent some time with him and said this guy is going to be a dominant player in this league. He's arrogant and believes in his ability, but he wants to get better and be the best TE to play the position. Guys who work as hard as they are talented are rare. He is one of them.... DeAngelo is one of them and for him to give kudos the way he was over Davis, the Jets will be foolish not to look at him... Dominant players are rare, and he has all the tools to be one....
Antonio Gates is a Kurt Warner story, they struck gold with him. these kind of players are found very seldomly. And there is NO player like Davis. if the dropoff between Davis and the next TE werent so bad youd have alot more TE's being mentioned as higher rd prospects. Byrd, Pope, and Mercedes Lewis are the only other ones mentioned as possible late 1st to 3rd rd picks. and theyre not really that impressive except for Popes height. Meanwhile theres a WHOLE PLETHORA of quality PRO OL to be had in rds1-3 Brick can only play LT. And LT isnt the only position that needs to be addressed. We need a Center and Guard (Kendall will be done soon). So people opposed to Brick at 4 have faith we can solidify the line with picks 29 and 35 while getting someone who will actually put points on the board at 4.(or super mario/ trade down) i would rather have 2 OL solidify our other spots and then see if Adrian Jones is worth keeping at LT. the next point is the biggest one tho Brick will struggle with runblocking and also the inside bullrush. I believe in time it will transform from a weakness into something he does pretty good. But to think Brick will come in and just start playing like Walter Jones is absurd. Same with Bush being in Houston, he might even be injured behind their line. Williams is one player i think will make his mark from day one though. The same can be said about Davis, but I believe with his athleticism and the rmultiple positions he can play will work to his advantage. I mean reading defenses and finding holes is an intangible that can make or break a reciever. But then again him running around to get open will be alot easier for him then for Brick to block say Dwight Freeney. and im not saying Brick is garbage or anything, but I believe with OL being such a glaring need and Brick recieving as much hype as he has, people just feel comfortable with the pick as if Brick alone solves our OL when in all actuality it does not.
Actuall you say : Brick will struggle with runblocking and also the inside bullrush. I believe in time it will transform from a weakness into something he does pretty good. But to think Brick will come in and just start playing like Walter Jones is absurd What r u basing this on? Brick excels as a runblocker as well as pass protection. Yes Freeney may beat him once or twice but No O lineman in the league is going to win every down they lineup. He dominated everyone he went up against at the combines. He is considered among most souting directors to be a close to a sure thing as there is in this draft. Im interested to hear why u say he's not a good run blocker. In fact, he is an excellent run blocker. Just ask the FSU Defensive line and Linebackers who he smashed around all day. Oh yeah, 4 of those FSU defenders that he pancaked all day long when UVA played FSU this year and BEAT them are going to be FIRST round picks as well. So IM not sure why you think Brick is some average prospect. He is an excellent prospect and a new breed of O lineman who can run like a gazelle and has plenty of power. Noone is saying he is Walter Jones yet. But many people are projecting him to be BETTER than Walter Jones in the future. We'll have to revisit this 2 years from now to get a better answer on this. If he can come in next year and be solid and have a year or two to develop, then you will not have to worry about his side of the line for a decade. Davis put up alot of gaudy stats in the combines and weightroom...Big Deal! If you were going to draft based off of workout stats, then Tony Mandarich would go #1 every year. There are many more intangibles to the position. you say: The same can be said about Davis, but I believe with his athleticism and the rmultiple positions he can play will work to his advantage. I mean reading defenses and finding holes is an intangible that can make or break a reciever. But then again him running around to get open will be alot easier for him then for Brick to block say Dwight Freeney. I dont believe you mentioned the word "Blocking" once in ur thread about Davis. Unless Davis is immuned from it, he will have to be able to Block Julius Peppers, Shawn Merriman and the like when he comes into the league as a TE. His job isnt just to be a WR. If that was the case, then I would take one of 3 or 4 WR's that will be available late first thru the 3rd round and still have Brick so I can address both areas instead of neglecting my O line in favor of a glorified WR. He has to be able to block. He doesnt like to get dirty and block. This is the biggest downfall I see for Davis going to the Jets. A core function of the TE is blocking and I dont see Davis being able to do that on every down. Furthermore, Davis will not get any throws to him I dont care how fast he is, if the QB is on his back every play. So you cant have him breaking down defenses and freeing up space for the running game unless you have a Strong O Line. Brick is a need pick that will not be flashy right away but will prove to be an anchor for years to come. Davis is a luxury pick that we dont need at this point in time.
Since you believe D'Brick is necessary at 4, who do you pick at 29 and 35? And Davis is the best blocking catching TE in this draft... Like I said when you are bench pressing close to 600 lb and squating close to 700lbs trust me, blocking will not be a problem for him in the NFL. He just has to learn to get better at it...Technique is the key and he has everything else. You cannot teach strength and desire. He has it ten fold.....
I really want Mario at #4...and take Mangold or another quality OL or a LB at 29 and a RB/OL at 35. If Mario is gone, then I'd say go with Brick. I hope ur right about Davis. I'm sure he's the best catching TE in the draft yet blocking is a different story. I don't put so much stock into bench and squat. I've played with and coached many O lineman and TE's who were explosive blockers yet couldnt Bench 300 and couldnt squat much. Technique is definitely the key yet putting that technique into use is a separate matter. You can practice it all day on the practice field and have good technique. When gameday arrives, its a completely different animal. Some players just have a feel for how to get under a guy's pads and and drive him and block and some do not. Balance and leverage are a huge part of this. Davis is an adequate blocker at best. I just know that whoever drafts him wont be doing alot of motion or in line blocking because he will be a huge liability. If they do run to his side alot, then they will need to overcompensate and bring extra protection to assist Davis because of his lack of blocking.
