We also still have the open question of why the two girls downstairs survived. Something really strange about a mass killer who would pass up the chance to kill two more. Maybe the second pair of victims is where the scream came from and he panicked and ran?
There has to be a connection…. Still crazy how he entered a home with 6 cars, 3 levels with confidence. He had to know them somehow
Also curious if he was at his parents house. Surely they would make the connection in what kind of car he had, and where he goes to school.
It's such a strange case at this point. If he had staked out the location he would known there were 5 residents. If it was an impulse spree it becomes possible that he came in the sliding door on the 2nd level and did not realize that the stairs down were to another living level. People don't usually sleep in the basement. However his car was apparently seen in front of the home so he must have had at least some idea that there was another level. I guess the authorities now need to check the other potentially related cases in the northwest. Presumably they got DNA from at least some of those crime scenes.
I have no real information, just speculating, I bet one of the girls rejected him, maybe on a dating app or something.
I wonder what happened at the bar that night… there have been rumors from the start of someone getting ejected for being creepy to girls. Then, there’s the conversation during the walk to the food truck “what did you say to Adam”. So many strange things happening ed that night, including the guy hanging around to make sure they got home, to the multiple calls to the boyfriend … wonder if it all unfolded that night
Definitely strange . I still feel atleast one of the girls was the target. And that he ran into Ethan on the way out.
I wonder if he can make the claim that he had been to a party in the house recently and that's the source of the genetic material they matched to his DNA? This is a really strange case. It would not be unreasonable for a student at WSU 7-10 miles away to potentially attend a party at the house recently. It's a bit harder to make the case that he was inadvertently at the scene of the homicides on the night in question. That raises the question of how the authorities found out about the white Hyundai Elantra in the first place? Did somebody tell them about it? Was it captured on camera by a cam at or near the scene in the right timeframe?
Based upon the facebook group rantings, a gas station owner/attendant looked at a timestamped vid around the time of the murder and saw this car--reported it to cops. This happened weeks after the murder. Thus far this same FB group has uploaded today a tiktok of a girl who knew the perp from highschool and who shared friends. She said he was a heroin addict back then and she was glad to see he cleaned up and got himself into school etc. She showed a lot of pics showing she was telling the truth.
They knew of the car before that… I’m guessing from the same camera source that Kaylees sister used to correct the timeline.
Hopefully it’s more conclusive, like dna under the nails from defense . I saw that Maddie’s father said a couple of days ago, that the killer made a huge mistake
It seems like the two pieces of cross-matching evidence are the genetic material's match to his familial DNA and his ownership of the Elantra seen near the murder scene. That's strong but circumstantial evidence at the moment. That's why they are asking the public for help. They probably need to fill some gaps to get a 100% chance of a conviction.
If he drove that car away from that scene, his best efforts would never get the dna of the victims out.
I'm usually all over true crime but I was late to the game on this one. It's weird, I saw an episode of SUV years ago, an episode with Desmond Harrington in it. He plays a method actor who becomes so immersed in and overtaken by the technique that he starts killing people to get inside the minds of killers. He becomes a monster in the process, of course. This has a vague similar feel, only it ain't TV.
The guy had a Reddit post this summer asking for people to participate in his study about getting in the minds of criminals right before they act. Will be interesting to see if that post is in close proximity to some of the other potentially related crimes.
These murders might not have been his first rodeo. I guess we'll find out; but if they don't have indisputable evidence and that creates reasonable doubt . . . DNA doesn't always mean it's a slam dunk, but obviously they had enough based on what they found and on his movements to make an arrest. I don't belong to Reddit but I do read on there sometimes and I saw what you mentioned. Not the thread, but that he had a thread. Before I ran across that it was already a gut Instinct that I had, that some kind of odd Leopold & Loeb thing went on even though the killer acted alone. I never pegged it as a response to a previous sexual or dating/stalker rejection. It seems more removed from that even though stabbing is extremely intimate.
