Trade MO'

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  1. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    Would you get behind Joe Thomas and the Browns 2nd round pick for Mo?
     
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  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I'd get behind La'el Collins and the Cowboys 2nd round pick for Mo. Thomas is a great player but he's also in that cap-heavy late stage of his career category that the Jets already have too many of at the moment.

    Get a young cheap guy like Collins and let him compete in camp and then play either LT or RG next year with the expectation he is replacing D'Brick when it's time. If he's as good as advertised you give him a good contract as soon as you can, one that he'll sign because he got screwed out of being a 1st round pick and you wind up with a Pro Bowl caliber player at a discount for most of his career. He's not going to wait an extra year or two to hit the jackpot when all he's got so far is chickenfeed and N-F-L is happening all around him.
     
  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the Cowboys would do that. It's a pipe dream though for sure.
     
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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    They've got a great young LT in Tyron Smith. If anybody could swing Mo's huge deal it would be Jimmy Jones. The Cowboys cap is pretty tight next year but they could work the room and they only have $29M committed to the defense in 2017. They move Lawrence back to RE, put MO at LE and move Randy Gregory to ROLB. They're set across the front for years in that situation with a strong run defense and a strong pass rush.

    They paid Greg Hardy a lot of money this year to make them look bad. They'd have to love a quality guy like Mo for that kind of cash. He's a great player and he'll never make you look bad.
     
  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Stephen Jones is the one running that Cowboys front office and he's also the one that knows the value of their Oline, he drafted them while Jerry was searching for the well hidden draft cards of shitbags like Johnny Fumble. There's no chance in hell he trades their best offensive lineman.
     
  6. 101GangGreen101

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    Jets at best will get a draft pick or 2 and a can of caffeine free Pepsi. Whomever makes the trade for Wilkerson would also need to sign him to a long term contract. That I would assume could hurt his value a little bit.
     
  7. KingRoach

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    The Jets had 6 (?) chances to pick up Collins last year and chose not to. I'm sure most of us were begging for the pic but the Jets didn't want him then and aren't going to get him now.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Some more revisionist history. Collins refused to sign with any team that would select him after the 2nd round, and I believe would've re-entered the draft the following year if any team took him. He'd rather be a UDFA and negotiate his contract than be subject to the rookie cap based on drafted selection.
     
  9. KingRoach

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    He could not have reinterred the 2016 draft, the NFL made that clear.

    The team that drafted him would have his rights for a year and he could be an udfa after the 2016 season.

    He would have lost a years worth of playing time bc he couldn't go back to LSU either

    There are Udfa salary limitations. He's making 1.6m for a 3 year contract. The last player taken in the draft is making 2.2 over 4 years.

    What do you think he'd do?
    Revisionist history yeah ok.

    Btw I would have taken him in the 2nd regardless.
     
  10. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The 32 teams in the league and their front offices didn't use a draft pick on him for a reason. They didn't agree with you and wouldn't have potentially wasted a draft pick on a player that refused to sign with them.

    I'll trust their judgement over yours. There's a reason we are not working in the front office of an NFL franchise.

    He also signed a fully guaranteed contract whereas NFL draft picks can be cut without being paid very much if anything at all.

    Thank god you didn't piss away our 2nd round pick this past draft.
     
  11. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    You're right. I'm pretty sure that getting a first round talent in the second round in a position of need is just a bone headed choice. After all we got Devin Smith who is by far the best wide receiver picked after the first round.

    You have proven that hindsight is not 20/20 for everyone.
     
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  12. JetLifeLo

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    Mo? no... Sheldon? deal!
     
  13. JetLifeLo

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    hell no. La'el and a 2nd round pick for WILKERSON????? no way. That's a robbery for Dallas and La'el has proven little to nothing.
     
  14. JetLifeLo

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    Nobody is trading for Wilkerson when he'll be a free agent in 2 months. If a trade was to be possible it would be after we tag him which he then has to be traded for 2 first round picks... idk where all this speculation is coming from or why you guys are trying to just push Wilk out for anything at this point... i'd rather have him here under the tag or his new long term deal than to trade him for guys that are either old or have proven nothing. If anybody is in the trade talks right now it's Richardson. A lot of us thought he was even better than WIlk last year but that's proven wrong. Wilk is a different kind of beast and small things like plugging gaps to perfection, deflecting passes at the line, QB containing, screen pass containing... he's amazing. You don't just let that special kind of player go. We may already have found our sheldon replacement in Leonard Williams. Plus something tells me if you think the Mo negotiating is a roller coaster wait til it's Sheldon "We want all the money" Richardson's turn to have contract talks.
     
  15. James Hasty

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    You are confused.

    If we tag him (non-exclusive) and someone else signs Mo they have to give us two first round picks.

    However, if we tag him and trade him we could trade him for five first round picks or one seventh round pick. In a trade, anything agreed to by both teams is OK as long as they both stay under the salary cap.

    Either way, the team that ends up with Mo after he has been tagged will have to pay him about $15 mil (all counting towards the cap) if they do not sign him to a new contract.
     
  16. JetLifeLo

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    just don't see why we would trade him after tagging him.. which I honestly don't think is necessary .. I can see Wilk taking something around 12 per year .. but that's just my opinion
     
  17. Nesquik

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    I don't know how plausible but how about a trade with the Cardinals. Arians and Bowles are obviously familiar with each other and maybe we can swing Mo for their 1st rounder and OG Jonathan Cooper he's fallen out a favor with Arians plenty of times but I think he still has potential still and can fit here at RG or C in the future. He's 26 years old and was the 7th pick as a guard. Probably one of the better OG prospects to come out in a while. New scheme new scenary could be what he needs, both teams would be filling needs and Arizona would most likely miss out on 3-4 ends worthy of 1st round picks by #29.
     
  18. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Cooper was outplayed by another guard who is now a free agent.

    After losing Massie and their other guard, Arizona will give the young guys like Cooper a chance to get off the bench and start.
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I'd take our chances with someone who garners a roster spot than someone who doesn't.

    Look at the facts. The entire NFL agrees with me. You're wrong.
     
  20. 101GangGreen101

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    Is Cooper even good? Jets would be raped in this trade ...
     

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