Top 5 current Jet's to have a break out year

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  1. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    i often wonder what makes people believe guys are going to break out.

    i dont see what demario davis has done to warrant him as a guy who will break out.

    joe mcknight has pretty much proven he isnt a 3 down back and isnt smart/tough enough to play on 3rd down.

    wilkerson and coples are solid players, well wilkerson is but dont expect 20 sacks out of the guy. lets see him be stout and get to 10 this year. the stout part is the more important part. coples well he was ehhh ok last year. new responsibilities might be in store for him so he could be a break out guy. he really hasnt shown any consistency which is what i am hoping he can show this year.

    hill. his catching skills will HAVE to be better. or he might break himself out.
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    1. Jeremy Kerley.

    The Jets WR's are still mostly who they were last year. Holmes is going to be a work in progress through camp. Kerley has a chance to win a starting job from the outset this year and catch 75+ balls. That would be a breakout season that puts him in the top 20 WR vicinity.

    2. Quinton Coples.

    Coples is going to be on the field more this year and he's going to be allowed to rush the passer more often. If the OLB thing works out he'll be on the field for 3 downs if not he'll be in the rotation on the line. He's probably going to get 8 or 9 sacks either way and that will be a breakout for him and the Jets.

    3. Dee Milliner.

    A young talented CB in a Rex Ryan defense always has the chance to be great. Milliner may just be good but he's got an excellent chance of being seen as a star CB in the making by the end of the year.

    4. Chris Ivory.

    If he stays healthy he's got a shot at 1,300 yards and a 4.5ish average. That would be a breakout year for a guy who has never hit 1,000 yards in his career. Big if on the staying healthy part, he's never done that either.

    5. DeMario Davis.

    Somebody has to have a big year in that LB corps for the Jets defense to really shine. Davis is the most likely suspect.
     
  3. DMarsh6

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    1. Quinton Coples- This guy really came on strong at the end of last year. How can he not be the number one choice?
    2. Stephen Hill- Was pretty good at getting separation last year, just needs to catch the damn ball and he'll have a monster year.
    3. Chris Ivory- I think given the opportunity the dude will really solidify himself as a feature back.
    4. Austin Howard- For a guy that was on a practice squad a couple years ago, he sure looked pretty damn good at times. With another year under his belt, maybe he can become a really solid starter.
    5. DeMario Davis- I really like this kid. I think he was great in the limited role he had last year and was very underrated. Looking forward to seeing him in a full time role.
     
  4. AbdulSalam

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    1. Sheldon Richardson
    2. Chris Ivory
    3. Coples
    4. Hill
    5. Ducasse
     
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    I'd sign up for S.Ellis 2. He was a very good player for a long time.
     
  6. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    Great thread....

    !. Coples will be the breakout star this year, I think. Can't explain why, I just think he's gonna go on a tear this year.

    2. Kerley should have a fantastic year this year if he can stay healthy.

    3. Milliner can have a tremendous year even as a rookie, and I think he will.

    4. Wilkerson has really played well already, but I can see him going over the top this year.

    5. Richardson is another rookie, but I think he'll have plenty of early success rushing the passer from the inside until teams realize what a threat he is and plan for him.
     
  7. Hobbes3259

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    If, (when) Sanchez breaks out...Mcknight does too. Function of playcalling,

    If McKnight has a standout season, it will be a bigger indictment, of the previous. Oaching, than if Sanchez goes to Hawaii.
     
  8. Zach

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    You know, I usually agree with you on most of the points, but I don't think I agree with you on this particular issue.

    First and foremost, I am quite surprised by the little faith you have in repetition. If you ask me, practice makes perfect. And yes, that means repetitive practice to the point of automatic action.

    Don't just take my words for it; any adult serious about chess will be able to tell you. First step is to hone the skills in each tactical themes; that means repetitive studying of the same theme till you feel your blood dripping through your forehead.

    Of course the practice problem will not be able to represent all possible situations out there; that is just not possible. However, it is still possible to distill the most important few skills that you would like your receiver to possess. Walsh would choreograph every little details of each given play - down to the release off the scramble. It is these kind of preparation that will allow Hill to go over the hump and become a legitimate threat.

    Mornhinweg is coming from WCO, and we all know about X's and O's of it - the pass dictating the flow of the game and whatnot. What intrigues me more about MM's arrival is whether he will also bring the WCO approach to the game to the Jets offense; the same, meticulous and thorough preparation that made Walsh's offense the deadliest scoring machine in the 80's. If MM brings the same WCO approach here to the Jets offense, then you can almost bet players will start performing better, starting from (Gulp!) Mark Sanchez, down to Kerley and Goodson.
     
  9. PuMa

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    People fail to realize .. After all our receivers went down Kerley stood up and caught 80+ catches and put up over 1,000 yards.. Kerley is a impact player in my eyes and is my New favorite player.
     
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  10. He's a body catcher at heart. It is what it is. Some guys are just at their best when thrown to an area rather than precise on the hands. Keyshawn was the same way. Which makes sense considering Vinny T said Hill reminded him of Keyshawn only faster.

    If this is the case the Jets need to recognize it & adjust the offense accordingly.You can design patterns & throws for body catchers. Basketball player box out type stuff.

    Hill also needs to toughen up alittle bit. He seemed to get shaken by the season's pounding & didn't hold up physically.
     
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    I don't know about "break out," but I think these players will be quality performers. And I dont include Wilkerson or Kerley because I already consider them to be good players. In no particular order:

    1.) OG - Brian Winters
    2.) LB - Demario Davis
    3.) RB - Joe McKnight (I dont think he will get much opportunity with all the other backs around, if he even makes the team, but those around here know I'm a McKnight fan, so I'll throw him on here one last time).
     
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    1. Quinton Coples- 16 sacks
    2. Stephen Hill- lead NFL in YPC
    3. Demario Davis- 100+ tackles
    4. Antonio Allen- by midseason I think he's starting
    5. Chris Ivory- Next Marshawn Lynch
     
  13. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    you would think that catching a football is such a simple process.

    b4rd do you think a portion of it could be fear? i know thats usually the biggest thing when teaching kids how to catch with their hands. they are scared of busting up their fingers. until they are taught how to create a diamond with their hands and let the ball catch itself. its just so frustrating to know that there are kids out there with such immense talent but nobody ever takes the time to teach them any fundamentals.
     
  14. Br4d

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    You can either catch the football or you can't. You learn how to do that between the ages of 8 and 14 or so when you are throwing the football around with your buddies almost every day if you're a normal outdoors type kid.

    By the time I was 14 I could catch the football one-handed with my feet two feet off the ground. It's just something you learn to do. I don't have big hands either.

    I had friends who couldn't catch a football for their life. It's an acquired skill.
     
  15. Hobbes3259

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    Learning to put your thumbs together, is something that talented guys like Hill, dont get their balls busted for because of their all around talent. Snatching the ball is a positive mentioned in scouting reports, when it shou,d be the norm, and its inverse noted.
     
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    I think Kellen Winslow has a good year statistically at the TE spot...

    just because he'll be one of the only reliable weapons this team will have this season.

    -I think Holmes' injury will linger most of the season
    -Hill can't catch a cold

    Winslow isn't the player he was, and I'm not calling for a pro bowl year or anything crazy, but someone has to catch passes this season and at this point in his career he's at the very least a saavy vet with good hands. He'll get some numbers this year as a safety net.
     
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    the Juggs will help him look the ball into his hands, which he does not do. The coaches can teach him to catch away from his body. But he has another problem: he hears footsteps. I saw evidence of that last year. It could be he was just trying to make something happen and broke away from the ball too soon. But it could be that he hears footsteps. I think some of these things are correctible. But if he is hearing footsteps, I don't know.
     
  18. Br4d

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    Hill's rep in college was good blocker, didn't mind contact.

    Last year we saw him have a lot of trouble getting off the line of scrimmage when he was pressed. I'm guessing he didn't have much experience in college with being pressed because in the offense he was in the CB's were trying to avoid his blocks instead of press him.
     
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    Our punter based on what we have for QB play and the WR dropsies.
     
  20. JStokes

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    Guys I'm HOPING breakout this year:

    1. Josh Bush

    2. Antonio Allen

    3. Hayden Smith

    4. Kenrick Ellis

    5. Jordan White

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