Good point made in terms of Sanchez being on pace for the all time single season TD record. My concern with this is the manner in which he is getting them. 21 pass TDs 5 rush TDs. 156 points out of 297 points put up by the offense This equates to 127.5 yds of offense per pass td and 105 yds per rush TD which seems fairly anaemic to me. Of the 11 ints so far these have arisen in 9 games with 4 of these losses It's also very concerning that Sanchez has 1 less rushing TD than Greene. This suggests that the emphasis on passing saw the CS think Sanchez had improved to make use of the toys but the balance is definitely out on an approx 66-34% ratio. I hold Schottenheimer responsible due to poor scheme, game planning and lack of in game adjustments I'll agree the defense has a great deal to answer for. The loss of Thomas to injury has hurt us a lot more than some think and it's concerning that E Smith as much as I admire they guy is the teams leading tackler.
I don't recall ever hearing about Edwards' perpetual boo boo knee. And Edwards isn't an injury prone player
I just see it as the Jets take advantage of good opportunities. Teams can gain yards all day and kick field goals and put up less points then us having 4 really good drives for touchdowns.
Because your looking only at total stats. Both units have looked very good at times adn very ugly at others. The Baltimore game we gave up 34 ... how many of those were against the defense? 3 of the TD's were returns or recoveries agains the O, only one came on the D. of the 17 we scored, 7 go to the D and 7 to special teams, only a folk FG was on the offense. Games like that skew the totals a bit and leave people upset at the offense despite gving up 34 and scoring 17. ITs games like that that have had people up in arms about the O. The poor blocking has had people angry, Mark has already taken the most sacks and lost the most fumbles of any year in his career. When the Oline has been bad, its been REAL bad. Our Idenity of a power running team did a shift to a seemingly pass > run team and it didn't look good. The last three weeks, as the offense seems to have clicked, we have gone back to the ground game. Its not a coincidence. It the last loss to Denver mark threw the ball 40 times. In the three wins since his attempts have dropped and Greenes carries have gone up every game. This tells me that out Line is better at run blocking than pass blocking. Hunter for sure is in this boat. We seen the line "fully" healthy and starting to play better. I think Mangold rushed back from the High ankle sprain and despite being worlds better than his replacement, he's jsut now hitting full stride. If the line continues to run block well and give makr more time to thorw the offense will continue to click.
I think you mean 156 points out of 297 put up by Sanchez? I don't understand what that is supposed to show us? Are you going to compare that to the number of points other QB's were personally responsible for in there 3rd season? I'm a little slow, you're going to have to break this one down for me. Where are these numbers coming from and how do they compare to other QBs? Or are you talking about teams? Please explain the point of this. Why is that? Again, I'm slow. Please explain where you're getting this ratio from, what it means and how it relates to other 3rd year QB's. Responsible for what? Scoring a lot of points?
Schotty has to always be helped to salvage the offense every year at this time. If Woody, Rex,or Tanny can't see that fixing this problem by replacing him is the answer, I am done with this team. Hell, every year its the same crap. It gets pathetic after a while. Bye Schotty. I want a SB win more than anything , but if losing the rest of the season is the only way we get to replace him this year then bring on 8-8.
It really kills you people so much that our offense is playing well? Do you even want them to put up points or not because that might look good for Schotty. Your a fucking embarrassment. Go be a titans fan.
I'll take the point on this one as I haven't done a straight comparison with other teams or other QBs in their third year I mean that in those 4 game lost with a total of 5 ints this along with poor D has links to 4 out of 5 losses Getting away from the run identity of the team is a concern to me which can be explained by the issues on the o line in terms of Mangold being out for a few games and Hunters struggles at RT a lot of this has in my view put Sanchez in harms way Again, I'm slow. Please explain where you're getting this ratio from, what it means and how it relates to other 3rd year QB's.[/QUOTE] The ratio comes from a quick calculation of yards gained pass vs rush and I've made an error on that one as it's coming out at 56-44% pass rush so thanks for making me realise I can't justify that Yeah third highest in the AFC but not translating to wins necessary to have us win the division or being in a situation where we essentially need to win out to get a play off berth. In addition to all the teams who will be in the playoffs have beaten us this season I appreciate you being critical of my view and making me reconsider my words
They fired Haley because he gave up 37 pts to our offense. How many times have we been this efficient with our O? Hmmmm......
Wait until Norval gets fired. In terms of the continuity of the offensive philosophy/system, if Jets do part ways with Schottenheimer, Norv is hands down the best candidate out there.
Quick Comparison 3rd year QBs Tom Brady points 176 total games started 30 Peyton Manning 204 total games started 48 Ben Roethlisberger 120 total games started 40 Phillip Rivers 126 total games started 16 Joe Flacco 156 total games started 48. Didn't even look at Montana, Young Marino et al as a different era So in terms of our current competition to get to get to playoffs and shot at homefield Sanchez sits behind Brady and is on a par with Flacco and in terms of AFC overall way behind Manning but that a given. Good company for Sanchez to be in I'll grant
I think it's a bit too coincidental that the Offense has started to look better with Tom Moore's further input, involvement, etc. That was a great opening drive yesterday against KC. Having said that, if the Offense continues to improve, specifically Schotty, then I'm okay with both he and Moore in charge.
