I'm more for fournette but i'm not against williams. I don't think he's top 6 material though. he's not gonna be the next odell or brown or julio for sure. so did stephen hill. so did gholston. but the lack of production in college is always a worry. and a TE at 6 is something only the jets would do. He wasn't underutilized in the passing game, i never said that. he was just in a run 1st offense much like stephen hill. I don't see how you can say fournette will have 2 good years. that's crazy. peterson has been at the top fo like 8-9 years. look at how bell helps the pitt offense. look how freeman helped ATL reach a SUB when the other NFC teams w/o a run game couldn't beat them (NYG, GB, SEA, etc) lynch was a huge reason for the Sea success but with him gone and Jimmy there they've taken a step back, which is why they just signed lacy.
Those are all 1 in 10-20 year type players. Williams has a ton of potential and reminds me of a better Braylon Edwards. Go get a top WR, an OT and TE sometime during this draft and all of a sudden the supporting cast gets much better for Hack. We need to build the offense for whatever young QB we throw back there.
true but so is fournette so when a player of the caliber is available, why not take him? I think williams will be a great pro probably a top 10 WR and a few pro bowls. but i think fournette will be a perennial probolwer and top 2 RB for many years
gholston and hills tapes did not match their combine, hell, tanny said he took hill because of his height,weight,speed. and i say that about fournette because he a of his play style and the certainty that whoever takes him is going to run him 350-400 a season. look how many games he missed a year after he took 300 carries. why do you expect something different at the next level with more games and bigger stronger tacklers?
the NFL isn't dumb anymore. we watched KC run larry johnson to the ground. it's now a 2 back league. I'd expect 320 carries max a season for him. but look at peterson he went 9 years at over 300 carries a year with no issues until last year. fournette is a big guy who can take punishment. If health was a concern the scounts would be all over it. Remember when people were worried about terrance newman cause of some nerve damage thing? he's 38 and still playing in the NFL. "experts" said he'd play 5 years max. fournette will hold up much like peterson
I do. we have fournette, jake butt, plus anderson and enunwa are young stars, ASJ has talent if he can pull it together. we still have decker as well. peake has potential too. we could also grab floyd or try and acquire gordon as well.
300 carries and he missed 3 games the next year and you still have to get a 2nd rb to take a load off of your 6th overall pick. sounds like a great pick to me
Imagine the stupid ass Jets go two seasons without giving a shit about TE and then draft a TE at 6 with no QB to throw to him? We'd be the fucking Lions. Without the half-assed wanna-be franchise twat QB that Stafford is. This is the dumbest fanbase in the NFL.
They say the most important asset for a successful pro is confidence. It's quite possible his experience with the Jets shook his confidence. As I said before, it had to be very intense playing on offense with Geno. When a QB is making as many mistakes as Geno was, there was no room for errors by anyone else. I think that more than anything doomed Hill.
Well obviously we need to draft some skill player that will disappear the moment the offensive line turns to shit. The QB is definitely important, but if they are garbage, then welcome to garbage.
The NFL isn't dumb anymore? Did you suddenly travel to the 2100s? The NFL has figured out the draft like I figured out how to cook bones out of fish. It doesn't happen. And the NFL certainly hadn't figured out the most important positions on the field. Your comment is so fucking dumb.
Of course I do, but how many tight ends have been drafted in the top 10....... and how many of those have even come close to that value? Do expect the JETS to be a team to buck a historically bad trend?
fournette would be a bad choice for this team. having said that I expect they'll take him. its a very "jets" like move
If there are 3 players at the same position in the league at the same time, then they are, by definition, NOT 1 in 10-20 year type players. At best they are 3 in 10-20 year type players.
So it's a better pic for a TE who may see 50 touches on the year then a RB with 300 carries and probably another 30-40 catches? How is touching the ball 300+ times a season not worth a top pick but 50 is? the only one that touches the ball more then the RB is the QB hence why the QB position is so important. did you stop reading there? I meant it as they run run RBs into the ground anymore like they used to with guys like jamaal anderson, terrell davis, larry johnson, priest holmes etc. most teams have a 2 back system to give longevity to their lead back. Evans is good and all but drops way too many passes. he's led the NFL in dropped passes the past 3 years. his stats are good becuase of the crazy amount of volume he gets. he also leads the NFL in targets by quite a bit the past few years
