to all those down on schlegel

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  1. Buttle

    Buttle New Member

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    No it doesn't. You cannot control luck but you can control the process. You can control your decisions and you can control how you use your draft picks. If they are hall of famers great. But don't take them 3 rounds early. Take them a round early or 1/2 a round and maximize your draftpicks and get the best value you can for your draft picks.

    But the problem here is they seem to be rating every player much higher than everyone else. Reaching for players no matter how lucky you are will eventually equal wasting draft picks. Yes you may hit the lotto and win on one or two. But playing the long odds will eventually make you broke. Playing long shots might be fun and it might work out but its not a good use of draftpicks or a wise way to do business. So my point is who cares if they hit a longshot here here or there the practice is poor business and will lead to ruin. The draft is a long term proposition and the process and smart business in the long run will always trump winning a lucky longshot or two.
     
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  2. Warrior

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    Don't you get it? These boards feed off each other. It's like a big circle jerk. They don't have a f#*king clue outside pick #32. The keys are do the picks fit what the Jets want to do - the answer is yes. If the Jets picked White or some other guy that didn't fit their profile player THEN I would be worried. They picked Smith at #97 because they really feel he was that player at that time to be picked based on their very in-depth and intense interviewing process. They could give a rat's ass what Kiper or any chump draft board thinks.
     
  3. PRPitbull

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    i think people are mad at where he was drafted, not at drafting him. He couldve been drafted later on, thats all.
     
  4. Buttle

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    I would be more inclined to believe that all the mocks services, all the scouts and all the suppsoed inside people are wrong if it was just one player. But when you reach and grossly reach on 3 consecutive picks it becomes apparent that maybe the draft experts aren't the ones out of line. Rather it appears that our FO which has almost no NFL expereince, no NFL scouting expereince, little NFL contacts panicked and is in over their head.
     
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  5. DGrab

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    Dude you're more or less saying that every pick will be a good pick just because Tangini made it, barring a guy you deem to not fit their profile whatever that means.

    A lot of us like to watch the games and rely on the best sources we can find to give us some outside barometer of what our team is doing. Sure we may be wrong and our sources may be wrong but at least we're trying to be informed. Sound like I don't have to tell you who we took, as long as he seems to be a character guy....

    If you just wanna say good pick after every pick, so be it.
     
  6. MyFavoriteMartian28

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    Schlegel was a reach, but he is an okay pick... Eric Smith was the big mistake... that guy could have been had in round 6!
     
  7. hydro51

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    and let the media bashing begin.
     
  8. JetInAbsentia

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    If he turns out to be a pro-bowler, I really can't see you coming here and saying, "I'm really glad Schlegel turned out so well, but I just want to remind everybody that the process we took in selecting him was flawed."
     
  9. Warrior

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    First of all, the last thing I feel is that they panicked. You can accuse them of not picking the Mel Kiper flavor of the round, but I doubt very much these guys panicked. By all reports these guys were prepared. They were prepared using THEIR info. You don't like it because it doesn't fit with all the published reports and the rankings by guys who simply didn't do as much homework as the Jets did. The Jets prepared their board based on their philosophy and the type of player they wanted. It's simple as that. If you want them to draft basd on Imaf#*kingdraftguru.com so be it. These players they drafted are exacly the type of players they said they would draft. No panick whatsoever.
     
  10. Br4d

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    They drafted Schlegel looking for a Vrabel or Zach Thomas type to come in and play hard every down.

    Honestly I don't think you can draft that type of player. I think you just get lucky and they happen. But I understand why they did what they did.

    All in all very happy with Day 1 of the Tangini regime's first draft.
     
  11. JetsFan

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    Nothing more thana abackup. I'll still hoping to draft starters in the third round. HUGE reach, no other team would have touched him until day two.
     
  12. discostu570

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    THIS ARGUMENT IS BASED ON THE IDEA THAT THE MEDIA KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE DRAFT PROCESS THAN THE JETS STAFF.

    If you really believe that Shlegal would have been available a hundred picks later, your saying that draft prognosticators, who are mostly journalists by trade and not football scouts, have a better idea of what a player is worth than scouts do, and a better idea of what the other 31 NFL front offices are planning than the Jets front office does.

    That argument simply doesnt hold water in my mind.
     
  13. LAJet

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    You have no basis for this comment at all. Taking players 1-3 rounds earlier according to what criteria. I'm sure Lienart at 4 would have been smart in your eyes. Rating a Center or Offensive Lineman top of the draft by all the football experts means nothing to experts such as yourself.
    The front office did their homework, much more so than all the people in this board.
     
  14. boogerstyles

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    my buddy is from ohio and he thinks this is a great pick. a star, probably not, but he could be an good system player. if we switch to the 3-4, we need depth at that position. i can't post a direct link, but check out the video on him at http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/draft?round=3&dl=nfl

    he looks like hes very stout, although bulky against the run and he led the team in tackles for a loss this year.
     
  15. Spike_D

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    Great post.
     
  16. New York Mick

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    I will give the FO the benefit of the doubt but it is hard to like a LB that is as slow as the oline.
     
  17. DGrab

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    Ah no, actually he was 5th on the team in tfls.
     
  18. Nails

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    2nd on team in tackles has to mean something:

    http://ohiostatebuckeyes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2005-2006/teamcume.html#TEAM.DEF
     
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  19. hydro51

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    the schegel pick doesnt bother me ethier way im not excited im not mad.. but the smith picks kills me why would you reach like that. it just doesnt make sense. he isnt better than freaking rhodes ,maddox or coleman and we got them all in day 2.
     
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