There is a play that works every time in this league. The RB goes in motion from right to left, settling in the QBs left in the shotgun, then the WR to the right crashes towards the middle, taking the attention of the linebacker/safety. the RB then slips out to the empty space where the WR was. in short yardage/red zone it’s an easy 7 or 8 yard play, but can be used anywhere with Breece Hall, all he has to do is slip past a corner to make it a big gain. And he would But he got 0 targets against Denver and is likely going to be traded soon
Just trade him. Who cares. We aren't winning with him and next year he'll be gone anyway. Either there's a new regime that isn't going to hand big money to an RB or it's the current regime and he doesn't want to be back anyway. Between his health and the fact that he's an FA next year I cant see us getting more than a 5. I know he's good but he's handled almost everything the wrong way. Not saying he isn't justified to be sick of being here but I promise you it's possible to be upset and not post teenager shit all over social media. The only reason to keep him is if you think he'll get paid enough to get you something better than a 5th round pick in the following year's draft. But this regime also has to feel like they might not be around for the 2027 draft.
they might not be around if they are trading away talent, on an otherwise talentless offense, for a 5th round pick
RBs don't get much in return. Having said that, a deal with the devil is available. The Patsies desperately need a RB. They are the ones we could possibly leverage for a fourth or even a fourth and sixth, or maybe a third-for-fifth-and-Breece swap. Would you be willing?
They just drafted a back and gave Rhamondre an extension. I think the Texans, Vikings, or Steelers make the most sense of competing teams. The Chargers maybe but they have a high investment in Hampton. They just need to hold the fort til he gets back.
Hall/Hampton would be a hell of a duo for the Chargers. Assuming they can get him for rental price, that might not be a bad move for them at all. Allows you to ease Hampton back in while also setting him up to be the bell cow next year.
Rhamondre is not long for that team if he keeps fumbling. Vrabel will not tolerate it. Their main back Gibson is out with an ACL, who knows what will happen with him next year, and their running game is bad. Bad enough that at some point, it's going to get Maye killed as teams tee off on the pass. If I was them, I'd look to get a RB.
Gibson is/was #3 on the depth chart coming into and during the year dude. He only accounted for a 17% snap share in his 5 games before he got hurt and 25 carries. Rhamondre and Henderson are at 57%/38% respectively.
Chiefs offense is about to explode, with or without Hall, but if I were them and the Jets are stupid enough to send him for a 5th, jump at that one
Yeah, but Gibson was much more productive. Even in 2024, he had fewer yards (538 vs 801) but 4.5 ypa vs 3.9 for Stevenson, and a much better receiver (9 yards per reception as opposed to 5.1 for Stevenson). Patsies' running game is collapsing. Stevenson has 70 yards on 29 carries the last three games. They might need to upgrade guards or something but their pass pro seems good. Given that, they should upgrade RBs.
What’s that matter though? They weren’t giving him the ball whether he proved to be more productive. I just don’t see the Pats bringing a malcontent rental runningback in to a young locker room trying to build a culture. Regardless what you may think of Gibson, the Pats prioritized Stevenson/Henderson were RB1/2 and Gibson was 3. They have $36 million invested into Stevenson via an extension and a second round pick (38th overall) into Henderson.
Hey maybe he can't. Let's find out. At 0-6 what have we got to lose? I choose to believe bloodline matters and that all the draft gurus that had him going in the top 10 were not bat s**t crazy for thinking that. We've been seeing Justin Fields he is beyond atrocious yet he's still out there starting. On his third team. So being a terrible QB doesn't mean a QB cannot get a shot to play. Let's see Shedeur play and I'm telling you Shedeur would be embraced by the Jets fan base the way Dart has been embraced by Giants fans. Many Jets fans wanted the Jets to draft Shedeur.
True that. Yes, and dumb coaches can be dumb. You have a point. That's because Dart is playing well and winning. I will embrace a walking Halloween pumpkin if it plays welll at QB and helps the Jets win. Okay fine, but one thing is for sure. If they trade for Shedeur Sanders they better do it with the full awareness of the coaching staff and they better bring him here with a plan to start him for the rest of the season. I do not want another Tim Tebow distraction. He cannot come here to be the backup, or the punt protector, or a wide receiver, tight end, cornerback, defensive tackle, whatever. If he comes, he comes as the announced starter for the season at least. That's all I ask.
Johnson will be 27 at the start of next season and 28 by the time the season ends. He was a relatively old rookie and he’s already a torn Achilles deep. He’s the exact type of guide you deal if you can get something decent for him. Good player who I think generates more pressure on average than McDonald. I’ve never seen a guy get held as much as he does with his bend and not get the call though. It’s remarkable really.
I hear you about J.J. but I'd be sad if he went. That kid has the potential to be a real wrecking machine for a good 4 or 5 years. He's just the kind of guy that WOULD bounce back from an Achilles and be a demon. For a contender he's just the piece they would need to solidify a good to decent defense.
Why would we deal JJ though? He is 26 now and turning 27 in Jan. 27 is not old at all. We need a guy like that and were missing him badly when he was hurt. He is like a JFM - that deal didn't work out well at all. And the guy we drafted at DE has not shown much yet. No way I am trading JJ.
He’s on an expiring contract and didn’t we decline the 5th year option? I wouldn’t trade him for a 5th or 6th. But if the Jets are “asking for a lot” I’m assuming they want a 2nd or 3rd. You gotta take one of those offers.
No, he is under contract for the 5th year, we picked it up. And he is a leader too. We need DL help, not open another big hole there. I am not sure we can get a guy like that in the 3d round at all. The only two games where the line didn't look completely incompetent is when he played. I am not moving this guy, we already lost JFM and it made a massive difference. I also saw massive difference in the DL when he played vs when he was injured. Definitely don't think it is worth moving before the trade deadline.
