I love the debating of moot points done here... T. Jones will be a Bear next year... do you think they are going to get rid of thier starter? Why? Because of Cedric Benson? What has he proven, besides the fact that he can not BEAT OUT T. Jones for the starting role... so yeah, they are gonna give him away, and cheap too... Are Ya Kiddin' Me?... Ok, let's do everyone a favor and step back into reality, put down Madden, and realize that T Jones will be in a Bear uniform once again, and so will Cedric Benson. Ellis " You're all up in the Kool Aid, but don't know the Flavor "
i dunno man....i dont think its nuts to think the bears will make benson the starter next season and go with a cheaper back up (out of the draft?). they took benson mighty high in the draft, and they will have to let him loose at some point, and hes certainly made strides this year. im not sure what kind of contract TJ has, how much hes due next year and all that stuff that causes a FO to make tough choices. so its tough to say if he will or wont be available. btw, wouldnt you rather see a topic like this over a "chad is teh noodle armz and sux" topics?
My point is, don't fix it if it aint broke... They are in the Super Bowl right now riding him... yes Riding him... he's been the once constant on the offensive side of the ball. Ellis
i'd take him for a 3rd or 2nd rounder....but again, NOT A 1ST ROUNDER! the only running backs i will trade a 1st rounder for are LT, LJ, and reggie bush
The part I quoted has you comparing Jones' running style to Martins. You may be sick of it, but my opinion is that this is what we need. You obviously disagree. I understand that you were saying you don't think he's the guy. no. I'd give up the late second rounder. Turner looks like he has a ton of potential, but a first round pick or 2 second rounders and moving down with the first rounder is way too much for a RB IMO. Obviously cheaper doesn't mean better. Benson was a first round draft pick so the Bears pretty much have to use him or trade him. Jones is the better running back right NOW. Does this make Jones a castoff if the Bears go with their former first round pick at RB? I don't know. All I know is that he would add instant credibility to our backfield and as I've stated a few times is the type of back we need. No he wouldn't be the future, but you can't plug in a 22 year old starter at every position - veterans and FA's are necessary. Spending less on a RB would allow us to spend more on the offensive and defensive lines, building dominant fronts is the most important thing IMO. If we can build that dominant, young o-line, then we can spend money to bring in a top RB prospect or be more successful with a less dominant RB. Like Ellis said though, this is all probably a moot point as the Bears will probably keep him. I think we just have different outlooks here.
i think thats a bit much....i think the picks are important, i really do. but i think that some here are hanging way too much importance on the pick rather than the return. like i said, it depends on the direction the FO is going, but who would you rather have (if the FO was going RB with pick 1 reguardless)? michael bush? turner? kenny irons? i think we all know that lynch and peterson are gone by 26. if for whatever effed up reason they slide, they would have to take either one... but honestly, 26th in the 1st round isnt the 1st or 2nd pick overall...
you let me down. :wink: hes not even worth a 3rd. wed be better off using that pick to nab OL/DL depth. i made my post earlier and ive only seen 2 or 3 people agree with me. he is good but nothing worth writing home about. definitely a hold the fort guy. no thank you.
i misunderstood then. i thought you agreed with the whole post....gotcha. i think with turners size, he also gives us that between-the-tackles-wear-down-the-d runner, but has the added bonus of gamebreaking speed. he would also add a bundle to our return units. like i said, it just depends on what you want to invest in. the FO wont let anyone know outside of WE hall, so were just pulling it all outta thin air. i think that if youre gonna take a back in the draft, you may as well get the best bacg for your buck (or pick). at 26 i just think that people are making it out to be a top 5 pick. if that was the case it would be insane for us to drop that pick on a player as opposed to drafting a player. but with a pick that late in the round, we might actually get more value from that pick by using it on turner. i think a lot of this will come from the OC seeing that he knows the player well. i know its a first rounder, but it isnt anywhere near the top... i made it out to be a bit more overly dramatic....what i meant was that if chicago lets him go, its for their future....the way the team is being built, we should do the same. id rather have the better athlete than "instant cred"....thats just me though. who knows whats gonna happen in the wacky world of the nfl? if i told you before last year we would cut mawae, youd have laughed....i know i was pretty surprised. it still happened....
agreed. If we were going to use the pick on a RB anyway, I'd rather have Turner. I hope we aren't looking RB that early though. They probably won't, and if they do it's because they believe Benson can produce as well if not better than Jones. The Bears already have the foundation built, we aren't there yet. We shouldn't and won't base our decisions on how they make theirs.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...bears,1,6045629.story?coll=cs-bears-headlines Ample turnover may include RB Jones Apparently asks for trade; GM confident in Benson By David Haugh Tribune staff reporter February 22, 2007, 11:34 PM CST INDIANAPOLIS -- Expect the Bears to accommodate running back Thomas Jones' apparent request for a trade as best they can. Presume they will expend just as much effort in trying to ignore the same request from linebacker Lance Briggs. Forget the idea of free-agent quarterback Jeff Garcia being overpaid to challenge Rex Grossman or Brian Griese. But warm up the notion of Pro Bowl return man Devin Hester getting a long look on offense. The Bears are counting on running back Cedric Benson but not necessarily on safety Mike Brown. They hope the offensive line welcomes back free-agent guard Ruben Brown and figure their defensive line has seen its last of tackles Ian Scott and Alfonso Boone once they hit the open market next month. Other than that, general manager Jerry Angelo had no personnel issues to discuss during a 45-minute session with local reporters in his hotel suite on the first day of the NFL scouting combine. "The Super Bowl seemed like a long time ago," Angelo said. Jones, with one year left on his contract, put his name atop the off-season agenda in a meeting that Angelo stopped just short of calling a trade demand. "He has expressed some things to me personally and we'll work on some things," Angelo said. "He really enjoyed the season and likes being a Bear so it has nothing to do with anything but what he feels would be in his best interest. We're going to mull over some things."
They'll probably start high (2nd rounder) but no one will bite. The best offer they will probably get will be for a 3rd rounder in which case they may not let him go.
Thomas jones is a powerful back but he is slow as hell he couldnt even break away from a guy thats 20 yards away from you in the superbowl
It's not the age it's the mileage. Look at Tiki. Jones hasn't had a ton of carries so he is a fresh 28 year old.
I love Jones, he is a very underrated player. As long as we don't give up too much I'd ove to have him.
In Virginia showed that he could break away. Since he's been in the NFL he's gotten bigger every year (not unlike Tiki Barber in that aspect), that may have slowed his speed a bit. He is one of those guys that is more quick than fast; that can be said about the majority of NFL RBs. The last 40 time I can recall for Jones was 4.5 which is very respectable for a RB. Thomas is a much better RB than his #s would indicate. I think he has 3-4 quality seasons left (the average life span of a RB). I would have no problems giving up our late 2nd rounder or lower for him. The RBs that are going to be available in those rounds are not better.
