Starting caliber playing in the slot is an overmatch, not being a better player against Rice/Irvin combined. If Drew Coleman is covering you, you have a good chance of catching about 15 passes a game. Its not like Revis gave up much. 5 catches for 34 yards is pretty good, but that one long catch could have been prevented...again, that falls on Coleman since Revis was trying to cover TWO WRs at once.
Good questions. The day that the PATS signed Adalius Thomas I made a post that said that the Welker acquisition was going to be the real killer and I was ridiculed up and down the board. Fact of the matter is, I knew that Brady and Belichick recognized that Welker was the kind of intelligent receiver that would make their offense go. The closest thing I've seen to their chemistry is Payton and Harrison, but I think these two are better. And the Jets saw this first hand...I was there that night as the Jets clung to a two score lead vs the Dolphins and the Fish made a late rush riding the back of Welker. He had maybe 8 catches on two drives in the span of 4 minutes. He looked like a taller, faster quicker Chrebet. After Brady, Welker is the most valuable player on that offense. If the Pats had to choose between Moss and Welker (and Brady had any say so), 83 would stay over 81. Jets might be better off with Revis covering him.
Nice overreaction. Welker had one lost year. Did decent his first year he got playing time in 05/06. Improved again in 06/07 on weak Phins club. Then he goes to an offense that boasts an HOF caliber QB and a HOF deep threat receiver on the other side of him. Welker, is a damn good posession receiver who runs very percise routes and is not afraid to take a hit. He landed in the prefect place for his skill set to be used to the maxium.
Without #81, #83 is nothing..... I think you're givin the guy waaaaay 2 much credit. He pretty much destroys the slot and eats up mismatches....and that's only because Moss is the other receiver. I guarantee, he does squat without Moss.
Dude just had about 50% of your #1 WRs receptions for the entire year in one game .. cmon now .. (for the record Cotch was 33 for the season) ..
I don't agree with you... Welker is waaay more important than Moss to the Pats... he keeps the chains moving so many times!
Nice quarantee. Did you know that earlier this year with Moss sitting out with a bad back, Welker had 6 receptions in a little over a quarter?
Moss is more imporant...think about it, if the Pats don't have Moss, the Jets have Revis on Welker and he does nothing. Welker is tough bc you can't double him AND moss and you have to choose moss. This is not taking anything away from welker - he's a great receiver - but a great slot guy is all he is.
1. one of the great mysteries of the universe 2. Asshole Cameron, unbelievable, we would have a real receiver right now.
BUT if he did that, Moss would've gone off bc who I'm basically complimenting is Revis's ability to shut down anyone. If Moss was guarded by Drew Coleman, even if he had safety help up top, Moss would've had the big game.
I suppose a third stupid faucking question would be: (3) How does he get cut by San Diego? That seems a more forgivable mistake, though.
too be honest, I loved the way mangini played the game last year. He had Revis cover Welker and shut him down. Then he had Ty Law playing bump coverage on Moss all day, with Rhodes over top of him on every single play. that is how you shut down the Pats passing game. It worked great, except we got torched by the TE, this year Leonard can cover a TE and it will work i have few doubts.
The guy we always over look who also kills us is Faulk. The Pats have a lot of answers in the passing game, guys who run great routes, make tough catches and get yards after the catch. You couple that with Moss and a great trigger man and that's why they are always winning 11 to 14 games. On top of it they go out and get Edelman and are developing him and adding him into the mix nicely. There really good and they have an answer when you try and take something away.
Welker killed the Pats when he was with the Phins. I might agree with you about Welker over Moss, but Moss takes up the stud DB like Revis (on teams that have one) which helps Welker out quite a bit.
yeah theyre an almost impossible offense to shut down. that's why i dont blame the defense at all for this game. offense put them in awful situations.
I thought the D played well, they banged Brady around pretty well. The INT's killed them but even without them the Pats are clearly a better team and would have found a way. We just don't really compare with them in terms of talent and intelligence on the field.
In the 2nd half the D made it a game, knocking Brady down a bunch and forcing him to throw before he was ready. The offense just couldn't take advantage, but give I'd give the Pats D some credit for that. The Jets are a better D than the Pats, but the Pats D has come a long way since the 2nd week.
