Pennington won the award because he didn't play the previous year due to injury, not because of his numbers. Chad wasn't very good under Schotty at all. In his CPOY season, his TD-INT ratio was 17-16. The following year it was 10-9. This for a guy with a career 102-64 mark. 2 of his 3 worst seasons were '06-'07. And if you recall, the offense looked awfully similar to what it is now. Lots of dink-and-dunk short passes that still seemed to result in a lot of turnovers.
If you recall Kevin Barlow was our starting running back we had a total patch work OL with 2 rookies and D'Brick sucked in year 1. We had pedestrian speed at WR and that team was in complete rebuild mode. We went to the playoffs with a creative O run by a savy QB with a highly limited arm. If you recall two years later Chad was great with the best running attack and the wild cat working for him. In the playoffs Baltimore stopped Brown and Williams and shut down the wildcat. With the game in Chads hands, the same Chad that carried us two years before he threw 4 picks.
Let's be honest, as much blame as Schottenheimer deserves for his lack of getting these guys prepared, questionable situational play calling, and his flawed play designs, Sanchez is right there with him. Sanchez should have made bigger strides than he did this year. 18 interceptions is fucking ridiculous, that's only 2 off of his rookie year total. That's not even counting all the fumbles he had and lost. The turnovers are GLARING flaw in his game right now, and it shouldn't be like that. His YPA is a joke, especially for all those turnovers he's given up. I can see if the guy was wailing this ball down field almost every other play but that's not the case, he goes with the safe throw and still gets picked and that comes down to his accuracy and him not leading his receivers to the ball. Next year is a big year for Mark, and it's truthfully his last year if he doesn't have a breakout year. I don't know if he has it in him to make the leap, the fact that Schottenheimer has to tell him where the open read is before the snap is ALARMING. The fact that he is missing open receivers down field and throwing to the check down is ALARMING.
And then his numbers looked exactly the same the following year, when he got benched for Kellen Clemens. Say what you will about the team being in transition at the time, it's a good point, but you have to remember that the offense looked almost identical to what it is now. Short passes that still managed to produce a lot of turnovers.
It's not just Pats fans like you noticing, it's the TV commentators too who come in with a fresh clean slate and make note of the attrocious play calling. The guy is an embarrassment, WTF is the Jets management's obsession with this guy? It defies all logic, he should have been gone with Mangini. Makes no sense whatsoever, it's like Woody Johnson wants the team to fail
Defense and Specials get a little credit too, no? Offense scored 315 points that year. 18th in the league. Also 25th in yards per game. Not so hot. To our more immediate concerns, it also produced inefficient quarterback play.
No it did not. Chad was ranked 12th in QB rating and we ranked 30th in ypc rushing the ball. For a guy who had trouble throwing the ball outside the hashmarks and down the field because of his arm it's pretty amazing with a terrible running attack how efficient he actually was.
I never said that. If hes injured, your going to notice poor play that what was at the beginning of the season. In that case why did we keep on throw so much in poor conditions with a qb who was playing noticeably poorer? Sounds like a winning combination to keep on throwing.
The O stinks outright no doubt about it. We have bad personal at FB we have a TE who is useless in the running game and the only complete running back we have is way over the hill. Our personal packages are almost a dead giveaway to the D. The fact that our line has a horrible left guard a right guard who was comming off hip surgery and our center was hurt didn't help. Not to mention our RT going down in TC. I blame Shotty a great deal for the personal. Lets face it Tanny loves him, he worked out Sanchez and we drafted him. Tanny reached for Keller and Greene and picked Conner who should have gone undrafted not to mention Powell and Ducasse. There are a multitude of reasons our O sucks. I think Shotty deserves to be fired because he is the only staff person that both the owner and GM trust as an offensive mind and he has been here for all the personal moves on O. It's time to get some fresh blood in here to straighten this out.
You must remember, because it was all too clear, how Thomas Jones ran out of gas as that year progressed. I was a Jones fan, btw, but that is a fact. He was the primary option in the loss to Seattle, which took the Jets out of first place in the division, but Jones could only gain 67 yards. We can argue all day with you claiming that was Schotty's fault, but most fair minded people here would concede that Jones was less effective as that year ended.
Another point that I think is a huge factor is that while the OL has actually been above average, we have gotten used to a top tier OL, which they were not this year. And one reason why was painfully obvious on Sunday, and that is that Ferguson is going back to the Pro Bowl based on rep, not his play this season. He has been average at best, and that is a real problem. I can't blame Tanny for Ferguson's play, though. And the other point about the OL is that Sanchez seems to require a top tier OL to have a passable game himself. That's not good enough.
In fairness to Ferguson he has been saddled with a LG who is a practice squad/back up who has been thrust into the starting position and survived because he has been wedged in between Ferguson and Mangold. Don't forget Mangold hasn't been able to cover for this at all this year.
Chad was injured in 07, and was relatively healthy the previous year. One of the reasons he was benched was to see if Clemens could do better, and in some respects he did, except that he got hurt because of awful play at LG. The main reason Chad was let go in the next off season was his history of fragility. Can't blame Schotty for that.
The fact is that the Jets offense has been mired back around the 18-25 spot overall for the entire time Shotty has been here, save an occasional rise to the top 15 in a lighter schedule year. That is about where it was before Shotty's reign, except for the 98 team. It isn't any BETTER. I would suggest that the talent level has gotten better over the last 6 years, so its fair to say that Shotty is only doing about as good - with a more talented group. That is still reason to move on. Any way you cut it, Shotty's approach is not producing the desired results. He's had 6 years, 3 different QB's, and a half dozen or so different receivers. His system hasn't produced. It's time to try a different approach.
Sure, but his numbers and his play were nearly identical in both years. And the main reason he was benched was because for a QB who didn't stretch the field with the longball, he was terribly mistake-prone in 2006-7. Sound familiar? In hindsight, perhaps this had less to do with arm strength and more to do with the offense he was running.
everyone loved greene in '09. when he was crushing safeties in the playoffs any player drafted in the 3rd round and starting cannot be a reach rob turner is and never was going to be starting rt.he is the backup center/ guard and t. elgible in max protect. slauson is not even close to being the problem on the line.he is more then servicable conner is good.schotty would rather not use a fb forming any opinion on powell is foolish,considering the amount of p.t. this year ducasserobably right keller is a pass catching te,calling him a reach with his stats is probably misguided
Slauson imo has shown some improvement, but considering he was the worst starter on the team last year, I guess that is not saying much.
Greene can't stay on the field he loves to deliver punishing hits and he is the one going off the field not the safties. He is not a starter at all he is a rotational back who we moved up to get when we had few picks to lose. Nice rotational back up. A reach. Keller was an outright reach. He is a middle of the pack TE at a position that is full of better players picked far lower in the draft. Conner can't catch the ball, he is simply to limited a player to waste a pick on. Again good fullbacks who can block and take a swing pass don't need to be drafted at all. The fact that Powell can't even contribute at all on a team that lacks a true all around back with the exception of an over the hill Tomlinson speaks volumes. Slauson is only not a problem if you don't have a RT. He is a below average LG in this league.
