The Trade Deadline thread

This makes up the best rotation in baseball? You gotta be kidding me.

 

12? No, try 8.5. Where do you get your numbers?

 

So I'm guessing the Mets didn't get Cordero??

 

Yeah, really. Phillip Hughes has two career major league starts. Let's calm down a second.

 

From here, where do you get yours? This one says 10 million, an earlier one said Boston paid 3.7 million in bonuses which brought him just under 12 million. Obviously, none of them have a clue.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10276045

This one says 11 million

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/07/31/gagne.redsox/index.html

What I originally heard was he had a 6 million dollar contract and 5.5 million in incentives. All the remaining incentives were paid by Boston as part of the deal.

BTW, now you must be over the cap

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061212&content_id=1759808&vkey=hotstove2006&fext=.jsp


This says it was one year, $6,000,000. Ken Rosenthal said the same, saying that it also came with $5,500,000 in incentives. Boston will pay him the $3,625,000 he has left in bonuses on top of $2,000,000 he's owed in salary, meaning they're paying him $5,625,000 for the remainder of the season, unless the reports of Texas picking up $400,000 is true, then it's $5,225,000 for the rest of the season.

 

Nobody knows about Hughes, but don't forget one of those starts was a no hitter through 6+ before he hurt himself.

 

Yep, what I just said above. 11.5 mil so no problem resigning him at 15-17 with Boras. He'll tell you the Yankees have offered that.

 

wow, draft pick compensation if he leaves as a FA? Who possibly could've known about that?

 

I got mine from where I get ALL my salary numbers, Cot's Baseball Contracts. The base salary is $6 million, with $2.5 million in incentives now guaranteed, $400K of which is paid by Texas.

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/boston-red-sox.html

And I don't think they are over the tax limit,, or if they are it's only a few hundred K because they traded Pineiro and his $4 million salary. That should put them at about the limit, but I'm not sure how it works with proration and cash considerations from trades.

 

Um, I'm not sure what the issue is here. It was just something mentioned in the press conference that I didn't think of that makes me like the deal even more. Of all the things I've posted in this thread, why you picked this to quote and roll your eyes at is a mystery to me.

 

because any time you trade for a FA to be you have that. You posted like Epstein revealed some great hidden reason for the trade.

 

This may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read in the baseball forum, if only because it's stealthy stupid. Dressed up in all that nice grammar and punctuation. First off, 4 games back is far from nothing, especially when you have 2 teams to pass and your schedule is about to get a LOT tougher. (August= 3 vs. Cleveland, 8 vs. Detroit, 3 vs. Anaheim, 3 vs. Boston).

Like dic was talking about, calling the Yankees rotation of Clemens, Pettitte, Mussina, Wang, and Hughes the best in baseball is beyond laughable. It's laugh-so-hard-you-start-to-spasm-and-then-your-breathing-becomes-irregular-and-lost-oxygen-to-your-brain-and-have-a-stroke laughable.

And yeah, your pen kind of sucks until proven otherwise. Chamberlain's going to have a good career, but don't anoint him the next big thing because he threw some fastballs past a few schlubs in AAA.

 

Well, your numbers or their numbers are totally wrong. His incentives are 5.5 million and you can find that anywhere. I'll rephrase it. Somebody's numbers are wrong because I don't trust anybody's. More say 5.5 so I'll go with that.

 

His ORIGINAL incentives probably are about $5.5 million. They're listed on the site I posted, I just don't feel like adding them up. It doesn't matter though, because they no longer exist. $2.5 million worth became guaranteed, and there is no way he's finishing that many games in Boston anyway. The contract he signed with Texas may have had $5.5 million in incentives, but the deal with Boston changed the original contract.

 

Ok, then that's different. All I was saying was his contract was 12 million (11.5) and with Boras as his agent it will cost you considerably more to keep him as we all know how Boras operates.

 

Maybe, maybe not. We ARE paying under $10 million a year for Matsuzaka, and Epstien has handled Boras pretty well. He has a LOT of clients in Boston.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2695054
"The agreement was confirmed by a person familiar with the negotiations who spoke on condition of anonymity because no announcement had been made. The deal would allow Gagne to earn about $5 million more in performance bonuses."

But w/e you two are off on something else.

 

We do too and dealing with Boras is like dealing with a used car salesman. And what Matusaka got was more then twice what any other Japanese pitcher has ever gotten on his original contract (even in today's dollars).