People are forgetting 1 thing: We wouldn't have to give up any thing if Herm Edwards hadn't screwed the Jets by actually winning games at the end of last year when the season had been already been over for months. I honestly believe he knew he was bolting for KC and intentionally screwed the Jets out of Reggie Bush....he's probably laughing about it now
Career stats white Rushing Stats YEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST 2003 USC 141 754 5.3 66 13 0 0 0 2004 USC 203 1103 5.4 54 15 0 0 0 2005 USC 197 1302 6.6 46 24 0 0 0 Receiving Stats YEAR TEAM REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST 2003 USC 6 15 2.5 10 1 0 0 0 2004 USC 11 97 8.8 22 2 0 0 0 2005 USC 14 219 15.6 49 2 0 0 0 Bush 2003 90 521 5.8 58 3 15 314 20.9 60 4 0 0 2004 143 908 6.4 81 6 43 509 11.8 69 7 0 0 2005 200 1740 8.7 76 16 37 478 12.9 43 2 0 0 Receiving Stats YEAR TEAM REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST 2003 USC 15 314 20.9 60 4 0 0 0 2004 USC 43 509 11.8 69 7 0 0 0 2005 USC 37 478 12.9 43 2 0 0 0 But Bush is better yea ok now its in plain black and white
The Texans are not nuts. They're smart. I watched every Texans' game at the end of last season. They blew big leads in virtually every game. They were smart though. They got the #1 pick. All Herm Edwards did was add 1 more career win to his resume while screwing Jet fans in the process...
Dude you are hilarious. you keep posting stats, etc and none of it has remotely supported your point. You also have to find it laughable that you're holding up a guy who nobody rates as any better than the #2 rb in the draft and the # 15 player overall and who many feel will go late 1st or even 2nd round, as clearly superior to a guy who is basically the consensus #1. None of that means you won't end up being right but to state it as if its lunacy to think anything else just doesn't make sense given he consensus opinions.
Who exactly are you viewing as their weaker opponents? Looks to me like Bush outgained him, sometimes by huge margins, in all but one of their marque games.
Not true, a lot of people have been whispering that White was the better back on USC all year. Heck, 4th and 2 with the game on the line, who got the ball? Bush is a freaking punt and kick returner, and occasionally makes flashy plays as an RB. Meanwhile White did the bulk of the work smashing into the defense and wearing them down. These are arguments people have been making in college, and it will only get worse in the NFL. Honestly, how many marquee players return punts and kicks? And of returners, how many actually consistently make a big impact? You can just kick or punt away from that returner if they ever become a really dangerous weapon. Do you really want to go through draft history and see all the times the "consensus" #1 wasn't the best player in the draft, or hell, even any good? That being said, I wouldn't draft White early. I'd get him where I could if I wanted him. And then I'd watch as he does better than Bush. Lots of top picks become busts. In fact, I think someone did a breakdown and showed that most top RBs and WRs come from the 2nd and later rounds, rather than the first. I wish I remembered the posters name or had a link, it might be on JN though instead of here.
Exactly . But my point is against stronger and faster defenses White excelled cause Bush would struggle White would pound away Ill evan post those stats from those games in a minute !
LanDale White 14-123, Reggie Bush 12-84 Colo st vs usc 49 - 0 TD - L White 11 YD RUN (R Killeen KICK) Southern Cal TD - L White 1 YD RUN (R Killeen KICK) Southern Cal TD - L White 3 YD RUN (R Killeen KICK) TD - R Bush 7 YD RUN (R Killeen KICK) LanDale White 16-118, Reggie Bush 12-45 USC vs Arizona TD - L White 3 YD RUN (R Killeen KICK) Southern Cal TD - L White 2 YD RUN (R Killeen KICK) TD - L White 6 YD RUN (R Killeen KICK) Bush 0 tds USC 49-9
Bush DATE OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST 9/3 @Hawaii W 63-17 12 86 7.2 41 2 4 58 14.5 20 0 0 0 9/17 Arkansas W 70-17 8 125 15.6 76 1 3 70 23.3 40 1 0 0 9/24 @Oregon W 45-13 20 122 6.1 38 1 3 43 14.3 19 1 0 0 10/1 @Arizona State W 38-28 17 158 9.3 34 2 1 4 4.0 4 0 0 0 10/8 Arizona W 42-21 14 110 7.9 65 0 2 16 8.0 10 0 0 0 10/15 @Notre Dame W 34-31 15 160 10.7 45 3 4 35 8.8 13 0 0 0 10/22 @Washington W 51-24 8 51 6.4 11 1 2 18 9.0 12 0 0 0 10/29 Washington State W 55-13 17 97 5.7 14 0 4 40 10.0 17 0 0 0 11/5 Stanford W 51-21 12 113 9.4 42 1 4 27 6.8 9 0 0 0 11/12 @California W 35-10 17 82 4.8 20 0 1 4 4.0 4 0 0 0 11/19 Fresno State W 50-42 23 294 12.8 65 2 3 68 22.7 43 0 0 0 12/3 UCLA W 66-19 24 260 10.8 65 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 The Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi @Texas L 41-38 13 82 6.3 26 1 6 95 15.8 37 0 0 0 Chartable Statistics white 2005 Game Log Rushing Receiving Fumbles DATE OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST 9/3 @Hawaii W 63-17 13 69 5.3 13 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 9/17 Arkansas W 70-17 10 60 6.0 10 2 2 30 15.0 19 0 0 0 9/24 @Oregon W 45-13 15 111 7.4 26 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 10/1 @Arizona State W 38-28 19 197 10.4 46 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 10/8 Arizona W 42-21 24 179 7.5 38 4 1 14 14.0 14 0 0 0 10/15 @Notre Dame W 34-31 10 26 2.6 8 1 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 10/22 @Washington W 51-24 16 56 3.5 14 0 2 31 15.5 26 0 0 0 10/29 Washington State W 55-13 20 155 7.8 23 2 1 18 18.0 18 0 0 0 11/5 Stanford W 51-21 13 60 4.6 13 1 1 16 16.0 16 1 0 0 11/12 @California W 35-10 16 90 5.6 15 3 3 61 20.3 49 0 0 0 11/19 Fresno State W 50-42 7 21 3.0 8 2 2 14 7.0 9 0 0 0 12/3 UCLA W 66-19 14 154 11.0 33 2 2 35 17.5 24 1 0 0 The Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi @Texas L 41-38 20 124 6.2 15 3 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 Chartable Statistics
Last First rounder was Pennington, and befvore that 1983 I believe was Ken O'Brien, same draft as Marino, Elway, etc. Ellis
1740 yards rushing at 8.7 per clip, and he's nothing but a returner who occasionally makes a flashy play at RB? Thats insulting and frankly stupid.
You keep saying that and then posting stats, but those stats don't back up anything you say. Oregon - maybe the best team they played other than Texas. Bush outrushed him 122-111 and out received him 43-0. ASU - White did outrush him 197-158. Notre Dame on the road - probably the toughest game they had other than Texas. Bush outrushs him 160-26 and out receives him 35-0. Fresno - Unbelievable game against a Fresno team that was 8-1 at the time although fell apart after this heart breaker. Bush outrushes White 294-21 (almost 13 yards a carry) and outreceives him 68-14. UCLA - Bush outrushes him 260-154, white did outreceive 35-0. And even in the Texas game, White's claim to fame I guess, Bush outgained him 177-124. So what games are you talking about?
Oh now I see, to back up your theory that White has outperformed Bush against good teams, you go back to 2004 and post stats against 3-8 Colo St and 3-8 Arizona. Seriously dude, are you ok?
White is more consiststint yea both stood up when the other didnt this year but look back at the previous years
I saw 7 USC games this past year. Outside of the Rose Bowl, Bush got the majority of his carries early and when the games were close and White ususally closed the games out. There were several games that they were down at halftime and Bush got predominantly all the carries to start the second half. He usually would have a couple of big runs that broke the game open. Once it was clear they were going to win the game, that's when White got a ton of carries to run out the clock. To me that says it all.
