The Tank Is On - Tankathon 2023 (Jets pick 10th in 2024 Draft)

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Borat, Nov 24, 2023.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Messages:
    11,818
    Likes Received:
    12,331
    Yeah i just can’t see BB wanting to lose his final game in New England to us.. of all teams.
     
    sackexchange likes this.
  2. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2008
    Messages:
    7,168
    Likes Received:
    6,259
    I get people think like this, but it's just not how football works. There is no such thing as tanking once you get under the GM. It's all fans doing mental hurdles to convince themselves coach X or team Y did this certain thing so they are tanking.
     
    Ralebird likes this.
  3. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    37,112
    Likes Received:
    30,867
    There's no such thing as gambling on football games either by NFL personnel...Or bad/missed calls by Refs at bad times. JAX pulled off the perfect tank.
     
    #363 Cman68, Dec 31, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2023
  4. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2003
    Messages:
    6,810
    Likes Received:
    2,777
    Hard to believe you roll with Zappe as your QB if you aren't trying to tank
     
    Cman68 likes this.
  5. CTJet22

    CTJet22 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2023
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    168
    There absolutely is tanking, but it needs to come me from the owner. Do you think the Jacksonville coaching staff really thought Luton and Glennon gave them a better chance to win than Minshew in 2020?

    The Johnsons are too out of touch to see the big picture.
     
    Cman68, HomeoftheJets and REVISion like this.
  6. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    5,173
    Likes Received:
    8,909
    It's absolutely possible, with the caveat that players are always going to try hard. The job of a tanking coach and GM is to put suboptimal players in at the most important positions, namely QB. If you're tanking, your QB likely sucks anyway, and there's nothing to lose by benching him for the worst one possible. This is how the Jaguars got Lawrence, they benched Minshew because he was playing too well. We should've kept Boyle and started him the rest of the year.

    Coaches can also intentionally have bad clock management, not make adjustments to things the other team is doing well, etc. It's very possible to contribute to a tank everywhere above the player level.
     
    #366 REVISion, Dec 31, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2023
  7. CTJet22

    CTJet22 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2023
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    168
    Coaches don’t want to tank. Their record is their resume. It needs to come from the top.
     
  8. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2008
    Messages:
    7,168
    Likes Received:
    6,259
    I don't gamble NFL, nor would I. The sport is way too much of a sham.
     
    Cman68 likes this.
  9. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2008
    Messages:
    7,168
    Likes Received:
    6,259
    Who signs players?
     
  10. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2008
    Messages:
    7,168
    Likes Received:
    6,259
    Your first paragraph is essentially agreeing with me.

    No coach worth their salt is tanking
     
    #370 JackBower, Dec 31, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2023
  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    26,692
    Likes Received:
    27,660
    Woody gave them another year regardless so they should be tanking
     
    Cman68 and REVISion like this.
  12. teamgreen

    teamgreen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2002
    Messages:
    2,634
    Likes Received:
    782
    Jets will miss out on the OT they need because of meaningless end of season wins.
     
  13. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2003
    Messages:
    6,810
    Likes Received:
    2,777
    if you're having a shit season you are better off tanking then you can always claim it as a genius move - the way the Pats will if they land a great QB in the next draft - you can see the media articles now "Of course the Pats once again out played everyone by working to ensure they ended up with the best QB in the draft"
     
    REVISion likes this.
  14. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2003
    Messages:
    6,810
    Likes Received:
    2,777
    you've lost me?
     
  15. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,033
    Likes Received:
    3,044
    So it looks like the Jets will probably miss out on the two franchise OL in this draft in Alt and Foshanu because they won a nail biter on Christmas Eve against the Deadskins.

    And the vicious cycle rolls on.
     
    REVISion likes this.
  16. Jets OG fan

    Jets OG fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2022
    Messages:
    671
    Likes Received:
    685
    If Jets win this game they could drop all the way down to the #14 depending on the other outcomes. Tie breakers are not kind to us with the tough strength of schedule. As much as I would like to slay the dragon, it's just not worth it.
     
  17. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2004
    Messages:
    32,785
    Likes Received:
    31,444
    There is going to be a QB frenzy for this draft with all of the experience these guys coming out have because of the extra Covid year and transfers and waivers.

    There are also as many as 5 first round tackles.

    It’d be an unbelievable opportunity for the Jets to trade down, get a good player and a bounty of picks for whomever wants the 3rd QB on the board. But alas, we have fucked ourselves again.
     
    KY Jets Fan and ouchy like this.
  18. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    6,229
    Likes Received:
    6,285
    I think a smart GM could still make this work.

    But I think Woody is committed to selling as many Rodgers Jets jerseys as possible so he can say, "I did that".
     
  19. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2005
    Messages:
    4,524
    Likes Received:
    451
    Jets can’t go any lower then 12
     
    ouchy, Jets OG fan and The_Darksider like this.
  20. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2011
    Messages:
    2,865
    Likes Received:
    2,470
    We can get as high as 5 and no lower than 12. Fortunately, the three teams we have to leapfrog to get to 5 all have stronger SOS so assuming there aren't major changes to that, if those teams win and the Jets lose we'd get to 5.

    The not so fortunate: all three are playing good teams that are either at the top or near the top of their divisions.

    Giants: home against Eagles
    Titans: home against Jags
    Chargers: home against Chiefs

    Chargers are the worst of the bunch but are the one game that has no real effect on playoff berths.
    [​IMG]
     
    ouchy and KY Jets Fan like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page