Aside from being the new GM and not being Idzik, one of the main reasons why the Mac hiring was almost unanimously beloved by fans was because he comes from a scouting background. If we can't trust him to find a guy in the draft that can contribute at the most easiest position to find, then we have bigger problems.
Personally I don't really understand the resigning of Powell for virtually the same amount of money as Forte. Powell is a poor man's version of Forte, and is often injured. Forte is aging but durable so he should've been combined with Robinson & a rookie. Powell's resigning makes little sense unless they plan to use him a lot in the slot (which could be the case). We had to have had one of the worst #3 receiver production in the league last year although Powell was excellent as the screen runningback/catching shovel passes and such. I agree with you though Legler. Teams routinely find starting runningbacks later in the draft. We've went the same route for nearly the past decade in Thomas Jones/LT/Forte and even Ivory to some extent. It sets us up to always need to spend money on free agent runningbacks when the NFL has really proven that you draft a runningback let them run their rookie contract out and then send them on their way.
There are countless excellent, experienced scouts in the NFL - and there are complete busts drafted every year. It's extremely difficult to project a player's performance from college to the pros.
Maybe Macc ensuring stability at the RB position speaks to his confidence to get Fitzpatrick in green and white this season
I can also see us cutting Powell or Robinson next year if they don't contribute adequetley this year. I also believe Mac will go BPA in the draft, if that happens to be a RB, I think he'll draft that guy. He can play ST and prove he belongs and EARN time in the backfield and part ways with one of the vets next year.
our RB trio is fire this year. so i'm not upset about that. More upset about the fact we still got this piece of shit o-line with no new pieces yet,.
Don't be so sure of that. When RBs north of 30 fall off it's usually a precipitous drop not a gradual decline. That's why teams try to let them go on or right before that mark. He's an all time great in Chicago and the Bears did not even give him the courtesy of an offer to retire as a Bear. We, on the other hand, were plotting 30+ years old Curtis Martin out there when he had no cartilage in his knees.
Forte is only one of the 3. We're not gonna ask Forte to break 1000 rushing yards & 10 TD's. But he can easily bring us 1000 all-purpose yards if he stays healthy. A RB with his skillset is built to last, and he fits our system beautifully. I think we'll be fine.
Something like that and Thomas Jones went off in his 30's for us. Jones rushed 310 times at age 30, 290 at 31, 331 at 32. He didn't miss a single game.
It's still poor allocation of funds on a position that can be filled easier than most think in the draft. We have $9 million tied up in the RB position next year. Even if we decided to sign Forte, Powell didn't need to be retained with the fact that we went that route, especially when we seemingly got a steal in Khiry Robinson even if it's only for a year. Forte/Robinson/draft pick would've been perfect and possibly set up the position to have some sort of future. We're now setup to continue the same cyclical pattern of needing free agency to fill the position, and will not be able to develop anyone to take over the starting position in a year.
Offensive line is the biggest concern on offense. Fitz would be nice to have back, but our O should be able to move the ball with Geno or petty. Manage the game with a running attack and play defense. Punter is a serious necessity as well. Pumped to see this backfield in action. The league is more passing friendly now. Offenses are all spread out now. Shit, Brady beat us last year the first time we met.. I think the pats only ran the ball 4 or 5 times that entire first game. However, I think jets history.. The best/most successful Jets teams have been built on a strong running attack and defense. 1968-Matt Snell, won the Super bowl and the Jets d, not Namaths guarantee. 1982- Freeman McNeil- AFC championship appearance 1998- Curtis Martin, Richie Anderson, Jerald Sowell, Leon Johnson- AFC championship appearance 2009- Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, Shonn Greene, Tony Richardson- AFC championship appearance 2010- LaDainian Tomlinson, Shonn Greene, Tony Richardson - AFC championship appearance Best attack is balanced attack and we have balance. Just need offensive line and the guy with the beard back would be okay.
We're spending 7.2M on RBs this year, 14th in the NFL. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/running-back/ I think our backfield is better than 14th in the league. Plus we don't have a need at RB heading into the draft. So I don't have a problem with what Macc did.
Yeah, you can draft a guy later on. Doesn't mean he's gonna be any good. That works for every position. No problem here either with the moves, and that includes Powel's deal. Watching a Back that isn't cutting it is just as bad as watching poor play at any position. That includes blocking and pass catching, on top of running the ball
I am very excited to see Forte and Powell on the field at the same exact time, so I am glad they are both on the team. There's going to be some awesome mismatches on the field, especially with the way Gailey uses the RBs in the passing game. I'm liking this trio a lot actually.
I get the complaint, but they can't draft every position with only 6 picks. Some positions are better filled via free agency. No draft pick is guaranteed, so I'm happy they aren't wasting a draft pick on a RB that could amount to nothing in the NFL. OT, OLB, OG etc are better drafted than signed as FAs. It's not like the 1.2 mil we spent on Robinson is going to kill the team. Powell got what he deserved, and I liked the Forte signing.
It just seems like a bit of a luxury. It'll be interesting to see Gailey work with these pieces and I think it's a way for them to mask the gaping hole at the #3 receiver spot and loosen up coverage for Decker & Marshall. Since we signed Forte and guaranteed most of the three years we signed him for, Powell seems a bit obsolete. They certainly cross runningback off the list of positions to draft which will make it easier for us to beef up the offensive line and target edge rushers. For the record, and possibly in the wrong thread, but I'm going to be pretty pissed if we spend a first or second rounder on a defensive back. It'll display what they think of Marcus Williams and I certainly thinks he deserves an opportunity to start.
thats true.... but runningback is the least valuable position on the field. you can afford not to have great players there. it is also one of the very few positions where you can effective platoon with specialty players(between the tackles guy, pass protecter, hr hitter, pass catcher, etc) kind of how baseball evolved the role of a bullpen. get 3 specialized backs, on the cheap, and invest the savings in oline. thats the way to go
