The Peyton Manning Effect

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He hasn't played as well consistently in big spots, it also takes luck to win SBs and they haven't had much. You are taking these shots at him like he's browning nagle, the man won 3 SBs, no team has ever won more than 4 in a single decade, no QB has ever won more than 4- hasn't he done enough?


    More talent doesn't mean better TEAMS and he only had the more talent for ONE season and he led his team to 18-0 before being upset in the SB.


    2005 Den was bad not awful
    2006 at SD was medicore not awful
    2007 vs. SD was medicore not awful
    2009 vs. Bal was awful


    How many SBs does Weis have w/o Brady? How many playoff apps does weis have w/o Brady?


    You have convinced me, it's all Charlie weis. That is why Charlie had so much success w/o Brady as an NFL coordinator and why he led ND back to being a national Power in college. It's also why NFL teams were knocking down his door to offer him HC jobs.

    How was Charlie doing in NE in 2000 and early 2001 w/o Brady?
     
  2. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Do you think the teams from 2001, 03, 04 are more talented than what he had this year? Seriously?


    2005 @ Den throws 2 INTs including a crucial one in the RZ that's returned all the way back to the NE 1.

    2006 @ SD throws THREE INTs including what should have been the game clincher except Marlon McCree fumbles the ball

    2007 vs. SD throws THREE INTs and only wins because the defense saves the day and because SD was w/o 2 of their 3 best players

    2009 vs. Balt throws THREE INTs and plays terrible.

    Those are FOUR AWFUL performances.

    Being a HC has nothing to do with his ability as an OC. Nice try though.

    I don't need to convince YOU of anything. The proof is in the pudding as they say:

    How great has Brady been since Weis left?

    2001-2004
    190/304 62.5% 1,951 yds 11 TDs 3 INTs

    Tom Brady without Charlie Weis in the post season:

    2005-2009
    205/333 61.6% 2,157 yds 17 TDs 12 INTs
     
  3. BadgerOnLSD

    BadgerOnLSD Banned

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    2003 playoffs: Colts get spanked by the Pats in the AFCC, Ty Law rule comes about, neutering defensive backs everywhere.

    2008 playoffs: Colts lose in OT to San Diego, massive outcry from idiots over NFL over-time rules ensues.

    2009 regular season: Peyton Manning is pulled from the week 16 game against the Jets, Colts undefeated season comes to an end. Goodell entertains the idea of rewarding teams with compensatory draft picks for "trying."

    2009 Super Bowl: Colts lose, Saints were able to pressure Manning, Goodell says he'll consider banning the 3-point stance.
     
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  4. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the 3 point stance issue is because of Manning.
     
  5. BadgerOnLSD

    BadgerOnLSD Banned

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    OR IS IT?!
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    When Goodell is talking about changing a rule the day after the Colts lose the Super Bowl, it is no doubt something that Polian wants.

    The concussion issue has been around for a long time. The timing of this 'rule change' comment is very telling.

    I believe in this conspiracy theory.
     
  7. NYJ_JD

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    ok wait.. since this I am reading this.. I can't really pick up on sarcasm..

    are you telling me that top rated teams are going to be awarded MORE draft picks.. if they play..

    AND

    The three point stance is going to become illegal???.. this cannot be serious..

    please say its stupid speculation..
     
  8. RevisOfNazareth

    RevisOfNazareth New Member

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    the three point stance is the first fucking thing you learn the day you go out for pop warner. fuck roger goodell and pussy manning.

    i hope archie shoots himself when both of his sons never win another superbowl.
     
  9. NYJ_JD

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    HOLY SHIT THIS IS LEGIT!?.. what a joke..
     
  10. ace_o_spades

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    When I initially read this I thought u were joking but then I googled it...wtf??
     
  11. Hemi

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    I don't see how banning the three point stance is going to limit concussions.
     
  12. BadgerOnLSD

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    They are rule changes that Goodell is considering. Nothing is set.
     
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    Goodell talked about this on "Face the Nation" Sunday morning, about 8 hours before the Super Bowl started.
     
  14. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Yes and Time magazine had a report on concussions the week before the Super Bowl. In it the Jets very own Alan Faneca stated that outlawing the three point stance might have some merit.
     
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    All the great QB's get that treatment.
     
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    plate o' shrimp
     
  17. BadgerOnLSD

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    grumble grumble grumble
     
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    John Wayne was a fag.
     
  19. abyzmul

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    Up-tempo Colts plead for adjustments to umpire position rule

    Associated Press
    Published: Aug. 27, 2010 at 06:21 p.m


     
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    The thread lives!
     

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