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  1. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Why?

    He didn't have good defenses in Detroit and his defenses committed a lot of penalties. I was always wary of the Glenn hire because, much like the Saleh hire, the "positives" about him were always impossible to quantify. "He's a leader, his players play hard, he's fiery."

    The best coaches in the NFL are generally offensive schemers. Not all of them, but most of them. Why we keep hiring the opposite of this archetype (defensive "intangible" types) continues to baffle me.
     
  2. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I dont believe in your theory that a guy needs to be a schemer or an offensive schemer.

    to answer your question re. Glenn. I expected early growing pains, these Jets look a lot like the Lions did his first year in Detroit even. What I did not expect though is the same wishy washy stuff like today Justin Fields saying everyone is in good spirits. I expected a team that would be pissed off to be 0-4
     
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    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say he needs to be an offensive schemer, I said most of the best coaches are. With that in mind, it seems questionable to target a different type of coach.

    The top coaches in some order are:

    Reid
    McVay
    O'Connell
    Shanahan
    LaFleur
    Payton

    Campbell
    John Harbaugh
    Jim Harbaugh
    Tomlin

    The first group consists of offensive schemers. The second consists of general leader-types, and even most of them have offensive backgrounds.

    Regarding effort/being pissed off about being 0-4, the best way to create a winning culture where guys hate losing is by winning. You are less likely to win when your coach's core football philosophy is retarded.
     
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    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    This actually happened when I was stupid and thought it would be "fun" to play semi-pro ball into my mid-30's. NOT an intelligent decision by any stretch of the imagination. Although, we did have an o-lineman that had the BEST O-Lineman name ever... Last name "Large," and I'm not kidding. o_Oo_O
     
  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    There is a lineman right now for SMU named King Large

    King Large - Football - SMU Athletics

    i hope we draft him
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    are you saying Glenn's core philosophy is "retarded' ? what about it is and why?

    if that was a general statement and not one directed towards Glenn its fine just wondering
     
  7. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Glenn had a presser earlier in the year where a reporter asked if he's concerned about our offense not being able to pass well because it's a passing league. Glenn responded "Is it? Did you see who won the Super Bowl last year?"

    It was a moronic response. Yes, the Eagles have had success with this formula, but most of the best teams are good at passing the ball. The Eagles also have an elite GM so they've been able to acquire all of the personnel necessary to simultaneously have an elite running game and defense. That's very hard to do.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    so you took that answer as an indication of his core philosophy? I think he was hiding his true thoughts by answering a question with a question.


    I personally think running the ball and being physical is always sustainable. It is not just the Eagles, look at the Chiefs and Bills, they have 2 QBs with some of the strongest arms ever. But they never throw deep, everything they throw is at the line of scrimmage and they run the ball really well.

    Cincinnati is clearly a passing team, they disappoint every year. There are many ways to win
     
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    I hate that word, wish you guys wouldn’t use it. Anyways, being honest do we even know his philosophy? He talks about “out brand of football” but I have no clue what that actually means to him. Taking away the obvious that we lack much talent, the only brand I see is a team that makes way too many mistakes and a coaching staff that doesn’t seem to coach the details.
     
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  10. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    I'm not anti-running the ball. The best offenses are balanced. The issue is that we don't even pass remotely well and haven't in a long time.

    I don't understand the point about the Bills and Chiefs. My point is unrelated to throwing deep vs. dinking and dunking. The point is those teams pass well. I'm less concerned with how they do it.

    The Bengals haven't gone all the way but they've had a winning record for 4 straight years.

    Again, I'm not saying you CAN'T win by running the ball and having a good defense. I'm saying it's not the best way to go about building a sustainable winner.
     
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    Ugh man that sounds brutal!!!
     
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    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Sad thing is, many years later, the flippin' arthritis is sometimes unbearable. I thank anything I can that Marijuana is now legal in most "normal" states. If not for that, who knows what I'd be doing.

    Having whined my fair share in this thread, I really question the ST coach using Allen on KO's and AG for letting him do it. Unless you have a Devin Hester on your team, you use the fastest most expendable guy you have on KO's/Punt returns.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    He doesn't even need to come up with a porn name.
     
  15. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Didn’t we overdraft a guy in the 4th that had a 6th round grade because he’s super fast and ran a 4.2? Why isn’t he returning kickoffs and punts?
     
  16. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    he’s not a returner, he has straight line speed. There’s a role for him on special teams but it’s not as a returner
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Thought he was supposed to be the field stretcher. #NOPE
     
  18. NJJets

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    Ohhh I see. So what you’re saying is he’s useless?
     
  19. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I dont think he's useless. Gunners on special teams of use. Wide receivers with his speed are worth developing
     

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