There are potentially three QBs coming out next year plus a few more. And many more the year after that. We have ammunition up the yang yang. No one is saying not to draft. You just don’t freaking tank for a guy you think is our savior especially in a draft that is far from it. You can also trade for one lake Matt Jones. Getting a QB is not the problem the nonsense of tanking a whole team and destroy unity is. LOL
I don't think anyone said for the players/coaches to tank. It is how we root as fans, which has no impact on players performance. Even the Giants, it was so incompetent what they did, it looked like a tank. That does not mean Kafka actually tried to lose on purpose. Again, this is fan's perspective we are talking about there. But from fans perspective, I fail to see how winning a few meaningless games helps. I have given examples and there isn't really a response that can challenge that. Aside from saying professionals shouldn't tank, which I never said they should anyway. We just did that with Gase and Bob. Both won some meaningless games, but then still lost when it mattered the following year. I personally don't get it, especially when we need a QB, but we may have to just disagree here.
I think it’s kind of a rational/logic view vs. an emotional one. I think having a better draft pick by losing more games is always objectively going to be an advantage. Given a choice, would you rather have the 2nd pick or the 7th pick? It’s a no-brainer. The higher the pick, the better. Doesn’t necessarily mean you will choose a better player, because that’s a whole different thing that is dependent on the GM making the pick, the HC developing the pick and maximizing the player, etc. But objectively obviously the higher the pick the better…you have more choices on players, you have a better trade down asset, etc. Can’t see how anyone could argue against that. On the other hand, the emotional view is more related to the “softer” stuff…like building a winning culture, like a fan cheering for a win (as much as I am ok with a tank, I still root for the team to win while I’m actually watching the games)…and all of that stuff has some sort of impact…losing and losing and losing I’m sure wears players down. It has to. So I get the emotional argument about wanting to see some wins. It builds confidence, it builds culture, it build excitement, etc. Turns out that for us specifically, we have been such a shit drafting team historically, that it hasn’t really mattered much when we pick that QB, we fuck them all up, either by choosing the wrong guy to begin with, or by not setting up the player for success…and what bothers me so much is that a big part of not setting up new QBs for success has been that we continue to hire newbie rookie HCs from the defensive side of the ball. That matters. We have not had any guys with proven success in developing QBs as our HCs. And we still don’t. Shit, our DC HC can’t even field an average defense, let alone offense. So yeah…
I get it, these professional athletes dont care about tanking but my god, they can't screw this up come draft time.
I respect both your views in regard to the emotional responses versus coaching and player efforts. There is no question we need to find not just one but two QBs in 2026. My take is more about demonstrating now that win or loose we have what it takes to grow and the capability to be competitive and not self destruct whenever we have a chance. Win or loose they have to play balls out, continue to improve in performance and show the coaching ability to develop and use talent properly this year, with the vector pointing up. I’m also a believer that had we had a decent, not even great QB in our midst, we would have won easily four more games. Coaching has been the second concern. If they fold now, or make bone head moves, it will give me zero confidence in their future capability to not just pick the right QB first, particularly if AG and not Moog has the final call, but as importantly, the knowledge to develop him properly. No one has had as many top first round picks and QB first selections and done zippo with it than the Cleveland Browns. God help us. I’m passionate about the Jets fans getting screwed by years of shitty leadership and expect improvements now. I can live with loosing when the effort is there, but at least with future hope on the horizon. Tanking may be is a misunderstood term, it implies to me giving up, and starting from scratch all over again. I can’t handle another clean slate move by Woody.
From your lips to God ears. If there is one thing worst than missing out on a QB is picking the wrong one.
Gipson is screwing us again, this time with second round pick positioning: https://x.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1992750761777012905
I remember early in his time with the Jets, Gipson made dumb decision after dumb decision in the return game but he kept getting away with it. People liked it because he wasn't fair catching or letting the ball go, but he was bound to start coughing up the rock.
People also used to kill Jeremy Kerley and Cotch because they’d fair catch it or catch it and gain 6 yards then go out of bounds.
“Fair catch Kerley” was fucking brutal to watch. Loved him as a receiver but I have no idea why he was the permanent punt return guy.
